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post #1 of 70 Old 12-18-2013, 08:54 AM Thread Starter
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A "revised" way of looking at the new 1000...

Assume that Suzuki never made a 1000 V-strom. Assume that they wanted to "upgrade" their 650...better brakes, better suspension, better two up capabilities, more torque, more horsepower, better handling, better seat, etc.
In my opinion, that is what the new 1000 is like. A "very good" upgraded 650.

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They should have kept it looking like the 650.
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Assume that Suzuki never made a 1000 V-strom. Assume that they wanted to "upgrade" their 650...better brakes, better suspension, better two up capabilities, more torque, more horsepower, better handling, better seat, etc.
In my opinion, that is what the new 1000 is like. A "very good" upgraded 650.
Not a bad way of viewing it. The lighter weight of the 650 has always been one of its big advantages over the 1000, and the new one splits the difference between the 650 and the old 1000.
With the lighter weight the new 1000 is pretty close to the VStrom 800 a lot us wished for, but with more power.
Jury's still out on the handling and seat though, we won't know that until they start shipping.

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Not a bad way of viewing it. The lighter weight of the 650 has always been one of its big advantages over the 1000, and the new one splits the difference between the 650 and the old 1000.
With the lighter weight the new 1000 is pretty close to the VStrom 800 a lot us wished for, but with more power.
Jury's still out on the handling and seat though, we won't know that until they start shipping.
I did sit on the seat the NY IMS this past weekend. The seat did feel comfortable, and has been widened in the rear as many of the custom seats are designed. I did comment on another thread that the stock height was fine for me ( 30" inseam ), as my '11 Wee is lowered 1" in the rear. The seat is made of non-slip material which appeared durable. When sitting on the Vee2, I felt right at home as if I was sitting on my Wee. I will assume that the handling should be as good or better than the Wee, as it is only 25 pounds heavier wet, and the dimensions are very close.

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They should have kept it looking like the 650.
Why? All that would do is maintain the status quo, which was that nobody bought the 1000 because the 650 version was lighter, smoother, shorter, cheaper and got better gas mileage.

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Ok, at least make it attractive. The new Wee is much better looking in my opinion.
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Just curious, what keeps it from being looked at as a very good upgrade to the 1000?

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Just curious, what keeps it from being looked at as a very good upgrade to the 1000?

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It is a very good upgrade to the 1000. I think what is clouding the issue here is the fact that for many years the 650 outsold the 1000 by about 4:1. Also, the 650 had/has no where near the issues that the 1000 had/has.As I have always felt, if the new 1000 is as good as the 650, and has more power and a few goodies, it will be a great selling bike for those with $4k more to spend.
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... nobody bought the 1000 because the 650 version ... got better gas mileage.
This was the deal breaker for me to decide on the 650. From a reliable 50mpg to less than 40 (~38 is the number I've seen most often) was too big a drop, especially given that other liter size bikes are able to get around 50.

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