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post #1 of 61 Old 10-22-2019, 12:33 AM Thread Starter
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205 000 KMS today. And then...

So, the old Vee turned over 205 thousand clicks on the way home from work this afternoon, in a monsoon rain.

It is also election day in Canada, and every SOB was trying to get to the ballot box at the same time as me. What should have been a 40-minute ride ended up double that. It took me a good 25 minutes sitting in the downpour just to get onto the freeway. Then there was the very new and shiny Dodge Ram that decided to head for the ditch only a few minutes from my destination. Bad day for him. That few minutes ended up in another 25 minutes in the rain watching the the fire trucks set up their perimeter.

And then it started.

The idiot style volt meter I installed on the bike eons ago turned from green to amber to red. And stayed there. I shut off my heated gear (which was hardly even on) and revved up the engine, but no change. Solid red. Discharge situation.

Luckily, things began moving and I was able to get home in a matter of minutes.

Ditched the bike, hopped in the truck, and performed my civic duty.

After returning home I began to investigate. 12.6V at rest. 14.5V at 4000 RPM. This is normal.

Then things changed. 12.4 and decreasing at revs. Down, down, down. Back into the red zone.

Shut it down. Fire it back up. Things are normal again. Can't get it to discharge.

Start monkeying with wiring connections under the seat, fuse box okay, check battery terminals (battery is not "new" and could be suspect), and discover that the heated grips are not working. This is new. They were working in the morning. Check fuses with meter - all good.

Then the grips begin heating. Then not. Something bad in that circuit. OEM grips. I did have to fix broken wires in the clutch side grip at one point many years ago. Problem could be in there.

But also, in the past couple of days, I have noticed a hint of a "metallic" sound that makes me think of the magneto. I have to check that too. I replaced the stator and reaffixed loose magnets back in 2016, about 38 000 kms ago. I fear the JB Weld may have let go, as it seems to have for some others.

The one question I have at the moment is if one can check the magnets by removing the generator plug. I'm thinking I could just stick a wire in there and drag it around the magneto and feel if anything is amiss. I'm pretty sure you can't get a visual on the magnets through that hole. I really don't want to pull the entire cover off just to find the magnets are okay.

Okay. Done venting.

The Vee has brand new shoes (Dunlops). She can't die this way but she's old, and if she's munched a magnet, that might just be the end.

And now V-Tom is going to pass me in kilometerage. I was hoping to hold him off for a few more weeks until winter holds him at bay...

The DRZ is my mount for the rest of the week. Further investigation continues this weekend.

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post #2 of 61 Old 10-22-2019, 12:40 AM
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Was the voltage drop immediate?
I'd think the magnet might be fine. If it is broken, the it cant suddenly get better right?
Dead/malfunctioning battery cell?
Water leaked somewhere in the downpour?

Just adding more questions to ur list.

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Damnit!!!

Fix it! I don't want to pass you became you are having an issue and had to pit!

This isn't terminal. Find it and fix it please!


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Vee3 or V3 = DL1050 2020 to?

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2006 DL650: 202,000 km 125,500 miles, Sold
2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
2015 DL1000 New July 2015 205,000+ km, 127,000+ miles.

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Automotive endoscopes are really cheap on ebay. Most of them have little flashlights on the end.
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I doubt an intermittent issue could be magnets. More likely a wire or device getting wet and being unhappy about it.

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Vee or V= DL1000 before 2014
Vee2 or V2 = DL1000 2015 to 2019
Vee3 or V3 = DL1050 2020 to?

My Stroms:
2006 DL650: 202,000 km 125,500 miles, Sold
2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
2015 DL1000 New July 2015 205,000+ km, 127,000+ miles.

This can help preventing from cars pulling out in front of you (SMIDSY)
SMIDSY detailed report.


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Disconnect the grips and try again. If that doesn't help, leave them disconnected and swap in another good battery.

Could a dislocated magnet allow charging at low revs, but no charging at higher revs?

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Wild guess here, since I donít know how your machine is set up. Is it possible that water could have gotten into your heated grips switch and caused an intermittent short?
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"performed my civic duty."

I can sympathize with the electrical problem but I did solve the voting conundrum. Absentee ballot. I get my vote in the mail and have voted before the polls have opened.
It's like going to Mass on Saturday night so you can sleep in on Sunday!
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"performed my civic duty."

I can sympathize with the electrical problem but I did solve the voting conundrum. Absentee ballot. I get my vote in the mail and have voted before the polls have opened.
It's like going to Mass on Saturday night so you can sleep in on Sunday!
Yeah, normally I vote in the advance polls, but not this time. I didn't make up my mind who to vote for until all the evidence was in. Was a bit of a conundrum this time.

Won't have time to do much to the bike until the weekend but first step is disconnect heated grips and see what happens.

I also want to open up the magneto even if just out of curiosity. I don't think that's the problem (shouldn't ever see 14.5V if the magnets are shifted) but I am a little concerned about that new metallic sound that cropped up a few days ago. Of course, maybe it's been there for a long time and I only noticed because I was riding without earplugs (unusual for me) while scrubbing in new tires. It's at a specific rpm, so probably just something harmonic anyhow.

If not solved then, I guess the battery gets load tested. I believe I replaced the battery in 2016 when the stator went kaput, so not terribly old. Don't think it's the source.

My money is on a bad connection somewhere. I don't think it is rain related, just a coincidence. This bike has seen a LOT of wet weather and never done anything like this before.

Anyhow, it will all be documented for the entertainment of the masses. I'm sure there are a few out there who would like to know how the JB Weld has held up.

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If it makes you feel better I had to replace the battery on mine a week ago (203,087 km) It has a couple of dead battery in the morning's but I was able to keep riding until I could get a battery (a long weekend interfered with getting the battery sooner.)

Hard to believe with only 203,000 km and only 4 and a quarter years old it would already need a new battery! (I'm at about 204,580 km right now.)

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My Opinion:
Vee or V= DL1000 before 2014
Vee2 or V2 = DL1000 2015 to 2019
Vee3 or V3 = DL1050 2020 to?

My Stroms:
2006 DL650: 202,000 km 125,500 miles, Sold
2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
2015 DL1000 New July 2015 205,000+ km, 127,000+ miles.

This can help preventing from cars pulling out in front of you (SMIDSY)
SMIDSY detailed report.


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