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post #1 of 13 Old 09-12-2019, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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Dl1000 front/rear signals same?

Previous owner put a set of little tucked in carbon fiber looking turn signals on the front of bike. I think they look goofy and had planned to buy some stock ones. However after I replaced the cargo rack today with the stock piece, and put the right sized bolts into the givi rack mounts my panniers are very close to the rear signals. So, if front and rear are same I would just swap them and paint the carbonish fiber looking ones black.

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The part numbers are different, https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemp...torcycle/parts. There is nothing preventing you from trying to mount the rear turn signal stalks on the front. If memory serves (but open to correction), there is a small drain hole on the underside of the lenses, which one has to take note of.
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Like many manufacturer's Suzuki gets a lot of their components from China. Turn signals, levers, perches, switch gear, on and on. In many obviously you can find knock offs, but in some cases it is the actual part without the ridicules mark up. I have found that to be true for turn signals, pegs, and levers.

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Like many manufacturer's Suzuki gets a lot of their components from China. Turn signals, levers, perches, switch gear, on and on. In many obviously you can find knock offs, but in some cases it is the actual part without the ridicules mark up. I have found that to be true for turn signals, pegs, and levers.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...114078c9BFBexz
I ordered a couple of those off ebay. For $12 I guess it is worth seeing if they fit - don't doubt that they are either exactly the same or really good copies. For the rears I think I'll leave them for the moment, I suspect that I may be able to section 1/4" or so out of the stalks to suck them in just a little. Sounds like a good - I'm bored winter project.

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I don't know about your bike (never had one) but other bikes I have had the only difference between the front and the rear was the length of the wires.

That did require them to have different part numbers.
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I have a set of Chinese cheapie copies from fleaBay. Externally they look great, but the connectors are incorrect (not a big deal, but not plug and play).

My main gripe is that the bulbs are not replaceable. The lens and housing are glued together. So that's pretty lame.

Then again, turn signal bulbs only see intermittent use so the bulbs should essentially last forever unless physically damaged. I may get bored this winter and install them, but until then I'll just try not to look at my janky beat-up stock signals propped up with duct tape. They work fine, and they have, uh, "character", anyway.
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I have a set of Chinese cheapie copies from fleaBay. Externally they look great, but the connectors are incorrect (not a big deal, but not plug and play).

My main gripe is that the bulbs are not replaceable. The lens and housing are glued together. So that's pretty lame.

Then again, turn signal bulbs only see intermittent use so the bulbs should essentially last forever unless physically damaged. I may get bored this winter and install them, but until then I'll just try not to look at my janky beat-up stock signals propped up with duct tape. They work fine, and they have, uh, "character", anyway.
The ones I bought appear to have screw off lenses, guess I'll find out when they get off the slow boat from china. Connectors are no issue, previous owner seems to have cut them off when he installed the carbonfiberish things.
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I did a partial replacement of my 2007 DL1000's turn signals recently. I can't view the link right now, but I'm guessing what you'll get are the same "Savage"-branded signals I bought off eBay. From the photo, it looks that way.

The Savage signals are similar to the Suzuki originals, but there are many differences. Some big, some small.

Overall, they're not as good as the Suzuki ones, and it quickly becomes obvious why they're inexpensive. The fit is poor, and the plastic is brittle, but the price is hard to beat.

Suzuki signal stalks are shaped to match the bodywork, left and right, front and rear. That's why they have 4 different part numbers.

The aftermarket signal bases are all flat. They won't sit correctly on on the bodywork without modification.

The Savage signals do not come with retaining clips, such as those found inside the Suzuki signal shells. These clips are pieces of sheetmetal that secure the shells on their stalks. The Savage signals rely entirely on the screw that holds the lens, and the internal wiring, to keep the shell from falling off the stalk.

The Suzuki lenses have a notch that sits at the bottom of the lozenge shape, at the lowest point of the shell. I suspect this is to aid drainage, or at least prevent trapping air (which could cause condensation). That's why there are different part numbers for left and right lenses.

The aftermarket signals have connectors that won't plug in to the factory harness, and a third wire. That third wire is probably intended for running light use. It almost seems as if whoever designed the atermarket signals has never seen a Vstrom up close.

Owing to the above, I mixed and matched parts, rather than install the Savage turn signals whole. I had 2 broken shells and one scraped up lens. Suzuki stalks were fine. I replaced the broken parts with the corresponding bits from the Savage signals, and kept the factory wiring.

If I drop the bike again, the Savage shells will probably shatter like the cheap plastic they are. However, they're so cheap to replace that I don't worry about it.
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I did a partial replacement of my 2007 DL1000's turn signals recently. I can't view the link right now, but I'm guessing what you'll get are the same "Savage"-branded signals I bought off eBay. From the photo, it looks that way.

The Savage signals are similar to the Suzuki originals, but there are many differences. Some big, some small.

Overall, they're not as good as the Suzuki ones, and it quickly becomes obvious why they're inexpensive. The fit is poor, and the plastic is brittle, but the price is hard to beat.

Suzuki signal stalks are shaped to match the bodywork, left and right, front and rear. That's why they have 4 different part numbers.

The aftermarket signal bases are all flat. They won't sit correctly on on the bodywork without modification.

The Savage signals do not come with retaining clips, such as those found inside the Suzuki signal shells. These clips are pieces of sheetmetal that secure the shells on their stalks. The Savage signals rely entirely on the screw that holds the lens, and the internal wiring, to keep the shell from falling off the stalk.

The Suzuki lenses have a notch that sits at the bottom of the lozenge shape, at the lowest point of the shell. I suspect this is to aid drainage, or at least prevent trapping air (which could cause condensation). That's why there are different part numbers for left and right lenses.

The aftermarket signals have connectors that won't plug in to the factory harness, and a third wire. That third wire is probably intended for running light use. It almost seems as if whoever designed the atermarket signals has never seen a Vstrom up close.

Owing to the above, I mixed and matched parts, rather than install the Savage turn signals whole. I had 2 broken shells and one scraped up lens. Suzuki stalks were fine. I replaced the broken parts with the corresponding bits from the Savage signals, and kept the factory wiring.

If I drop the bike again, the Savage shells will probably shatter like the cheap plastic they are. However, they're so cheap to replace that I don't worry about it.
Good to know. Unfortunately I don't have the originals and the ones on the bike are generic stud mount things. I guess I'll see what I have to do to them when they show up - and if they suck I'll send them down the road and pony up the $50 a piece for new Suzuki ones.
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Depending on how pretty you want it to be, I think you could make some kind of spacers to get the aftermarket signal stalks to fit. Or carve/grind/reshape the stalk bases appropriately.

I still have the Savage stalks from when I did my work. I'll look at them later and see if any ideas occur to me.

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