How much is my bike worth? Oil leak. - Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums
DL1000 from 2002-2012 DL1000 from 2002-2012 (K2-L2)

 20Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 12:31 AM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
 
cappystromsocal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 31
How much is my bike worth? Oil leak.

Hey all,

This is a weird post but I really need some advice here. I’ve had my 2005 DL1000 for a year now and sadly have run into a lot of issues. I think I need to sell it but am not sure how to value it because of some really significant “cons” that work against the “pros.”

I bought it at 38k miles, it was running good, looked clean, and fully loaded with full Happy Trails racks and side boxes and top case and engine guards and bash guard, Two Brothers exhaust etc. It was a luxury bike for me and I paid $4,000 for it, which is about what they go for on Craigslist in the LA area.

At about 41k miles, I went to change the oil and found that the drain hole threading was stripped and hand loctite on there. Long story short, I tried to rethread it and put a crack in the motor (which btw ruined my summer). My mechanic recommended me to his buddy who is a welder and mostly works on turbos and is great at welding aluminum. His welds fixed the crack and he rethreaded it. The crack didn’t leak but the threads had a slow leak (few drops per day). I was just glad the bike was running again as I could deal with the oil leak by being careful. The job cost me $600.

At about 44k, bike stopped idling. Took it to mechanic and he took the bike apart to diagnose everything and he told me the Power Commander 3 has gone bad but it runs just fine without it on, so I asked him to take it off. I also asked him to do a full service on the bike (air filter, spark plugs, throttle bodies, all fluids, all lubing, fresh rear brake pads). And THEN, after all this, I am now experiencig the surge” or “the bog” that this motor is known for right between the 3-4k RPM range. I think the Power Commander was masking the surge problem. So after the $600 repair + full service, I am feeling pretty discouraged. At this point I just want to sell it and buy a simple bike that runs reliably and smoothly with no leaks or surges. No more bike drama.

I’ve accepted that it’s gonna be hard to find a buyer given the cracked motor and surging acceleration. I can take my time and will hopefully find a mechanic type who wants to buy it and maybe swap the motor or something, idk.

I’m ready to put it up on Craigslist, but what should I value it’s selling price at? I want to be honest about the crack and leak and surge. I’m thinking of that I’ll be lucky to get $2000 for it, even in the LA area. Does anyone have some advice for me?

As a side note, I miss my 650 now.
emjrrider and dudu like this.
cappystromsocal is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 02:29 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
Gert's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: South Africa
Posts: 1,230
Not sure what to advise on the price in your case. Have you been to a dealer? If you plan on replacing your Vee with another bike, ask what you can get for it as a trade-in. You will have a better idea of a price and can then decide which route to go.
Gert is offline  
post #3 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 03:17 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
Jim L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 154
Garage
I haven't seen very many 2005 1000's that have not needed a PC, I've owned two of them, and both ran great after the install. So you can either spend the $220 on the PCFC and get it running correctly and deal with the oil drip, or get rid of it and try to find something different.
Big B and Bugzy like this.
Jim L is online now  
 
post #4 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 08:29 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
STCorndog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 3,508
The PC was not masking the surge, it was correcting it. On my 2007 bike, I just had the stock ECM reprogrammed to get rid of the surge,a cheaper option.

As for the oil leak, try Teflon tape or Teflon paste on the drain bolt threads. My Harley taught me this trick.

I have no idea what it is worth.
Big B, Motor7 and dudu like this.

"If its not broke yet, it can still be fixed"
STCorndog is offline  
post #5 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 09:07 AM
Administrator
 
Big B's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Central OHIO "Go Buckeyes"
Posts: 16,044
Garage
Post number 4 is spot on, and the old first gen 1000’s don’t sell well even when they are looking and running perfect. Yup you should’ve kept your 650 or got a 14 and up 1000.

BRIAN "GO Buckeyes, GO Wildcats"!

2015 DL650 XT "Fred"

1997 Honda Valkyrie 1500 custom “Fiona”




Big B is online now  
post #6 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 09:43 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
Bugzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 4,102
I would have a specialist look at that leaking oil screw, it may be an easy fix with a helicoil, or with some kind of sealant.

The power commander you simply need to replace. It makes this bike rideable, and I would not even consider one of these without it. Put it back in, fix the leak, and your good. Go riding.
Big B likes this.
Bugzy is online now  
post #7 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 10:48 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Pasadna area
Posts: 12,640
Try pawning it off at Bert's Mega Mall in Covina. They have had some nice used Wee Stroms at good prices before.
notacop is online now  
post #8 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 12:41 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
PerazziMx14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 998
Quote:
Originally Posted by notacop View Post
Try pawning it off at Bert's Mega Mall in Covina. They have had some nice used Wee Stroms at good prices before.
For them to have nice strom's at good prices means they don't pay a lot for trades.

Not knowing what the left coast is doing price wise but in the North East USA I'd list the bike in the $1,500 to $2,000 range and hope a buyer come along sooner than later and take the 1st pile of cash waved under my nose.
PerazziMx14 is offline  
post #9 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 12:57 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
PerazziMx14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 998
Quote:
Originally Posted by STCorndog View Post
The PC was not masking the surge, it was correcting it. On my 2007 bike, I just had the stock ECM reprogrammed to get rid of the surge,a cheaper option.

As for the oil leak, try Teflon tape or Teflon paste on the drain bolt threads. My Harley taught me this trick.

I have no idea what it is worth.
Teflon tap dope and pipe dope are not thread sealants, they are thread lubricants. The interference fit of tapered threads is the "seal".

Power Commanders DO NOT correct fueling they issues simply enrichen or lean out chunks of the fuel map. These values are set and are unaffected by air temperatures or elevation changes. Open loop systems are not a whole lot different than a jetted carb. To make changes to a open loop fuel map you need to open then ECU with software and manually change values for different throttle positions.

FatDuc fuel manipulators were nothing more than dumbed down Power Commanders that fooled the fueling with inline resistors.

A Power Commander coupled with an O2 optimizer making the fueling a "closed loop" system will correct fuel issues because it had the ability to collect and analyze data then make corrective changes to the fueling many times per second.
PerazziMx14 is offline  
post #10 of 38 Old 04-05-2019, 01:09 PM
Official Stromtrooper.com Sponsor
 
realshelby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 4,564
Quote:
Originally Posted by PerazziMx14 View Post
Teflon tap dope and pipe dope are not thread sealants, they are thread lubricants. The interference fit of tapered threads is the "seal".
You sure about that?

Especially important as drain plugs on these bikes are not tapered "pipe" threads.
Hatchi likes this.

'12 DL 650 '14 BMW R 1200 RT

WERKS modified clutch baskets for DL and SV 1000's.
The BEST in chudder control, noise control, and lasting durability! AVAILABLE HERE: www.werksparts.com

Have questions about the clutch in your DL or SV 1000? E-mail Terry [email protected]
realshelby is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My Day @ Barber Motorsport ChiGuy64 Riding Proficiency 12 06-04-2013 08:39 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome