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post #151 of 158 Old 10-01-2019, 12:57 AM Thread Starter
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Note to self: avoid bending countershaft.
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Note to self: avoid bending countershaft.
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Can you please go back in time and tell my younger self that? Maybe add a slap upside my head while you're there...

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Suzuki chemical equivalents / alternatives?

Hey all! I've been super busy the last couple months doing "other" stuff; stuff that's cool enough that I don't feel too bad about the delay. :-) (I'm a singer, and I recently got connected with a super passionate and cool group of local singers and artists, and we've been doing local gigs the last couple months. I've been having a blast, and have *really* needed this after about a 3 year dry spell since moving to Redding, so yeah. :-) )

Well, I had some time the other evening, so I did some research on what I'm going to need to put my motor (and my bike) back together. (And to see if buying a complete gasket kit would be more or less expensive than buying individual gaskets. That answer was easy: buy the kit.)

Now I have a couple questions about "chemicals".

These are the "chemicals" I'll need, as listed in the manual (there are more listed, but I won't need them for the stuff I'm putting together):

Suzuki Bond 1207B
Thread Lock 1342
Suzuki Super Grease "A" - Suzuki apparently doesn't sell the "A"; just the "C"

Questions:
  • Are there equivalents / alternatives to each of these that are more readily available at normal box stores or Amazon, or should I just go with the Suzuki stuff?
  • Is there an actual difference between the A and C grease? I've searched for days, and like normal, 50% of posts say yes, 50% say no. The 50% that say yes are also split about 50/50 as to whether you should use A or C!

Anyway, I'm looking for answers from you who have actually used this stuff before. :-)

Fire away! And...thanks!
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Good news: There's nothing magical about the Suzuki substances. Use 'em if you got 'em, but they're not required.

If you can get the Suzuki stuff without undue delay or expense, go for it. However, often the "genuine" stuff is overly expensive, would take too long to get, or is altogether unobtainable, so folks have found substitutes.

Suzuki Super Bond looks like a silicone RTV gasket maker. There are several Permatex RTV products that could work in its place, depending on the application. Where is this stuff going to be used?

Blue Loctite (or the Permatex equivalent) is the only thread locker you need. It can be loosened with hand tools, but won't come loose on its own. I never use "red," or the kind of thread locker that requires heat to remove, since there's nothing on my Vstrom where I want to have to break out the blowtorch to get it loose.

Where Suzuki Super Grease "A" was indicated, I've used Mobil One synthetic grease. That's the red stuff that comes in blue-and-silver cans/tubes. Perfectly good substitution. Some folks prefer "marine"-rated grease for the extra resistance to dispersion by water, but it's not required.

Bottom line: you can get substitute goos and greases at any auto parts store that are just fine, no need to pay or wait for shipping.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks; that helps a lot!

The "super bond" is used for putting the cases back together...apparently a very thin layer on both sides, then bolt them together. (Just don't forget to, you know, put the tranny and junk in first.) Also for some other small parts that I can't remember at the moment. So yeah; I don't need a ton of it.

I can grab some blue loctite local, and already have marine grade grease, so I just need the super bond or equivalent. And some free time. :-)
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For the crankcase halves I would use Permatex Ultra Black (82180). It has the most oil resistance, so it's best-suited.
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