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post #1 of 9 Old 04-10-2017, 08:01 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Bike only starts when negative charge cable attached!

Long time no see everyone. Guess my Strom and farkles have been holding up! Anyway...

Just was out in the garage trying to get the Strom ('09 DL1000) going after winter hibernation and it wouldn't fire up for me. Long story short it's some sort of electrical issue. Fuses good, battery is good. BUT.

1) It won't start (or even gauges roll over, headlight come on, etc) unless I have the negative charger unit cable attached to the battery negative terminal. The charger doesn't even have to be turned on. But once I hook up the negative, BAM, gauges roll when I turn the key and the starter fires her up instantly. No hesitation.

HOORAY I'M RIDING!...........or not because

2) Bike dies as soon as negative cable is removed. I take out the battery. Attach charger. All specs fine. Down to 85% charge.



So, I'm guess it's a bad ground somewhere? I did notice some bird seed in my empty battery box when I put the battery in so some sort of mouse/rodent has been in there messing around.

Does anyone know where the ground hits the frame? The negative lead seems to lead right into the middle of the engine. Hard to trace

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post #2 of 9 Old 04-10-2017, 11:22 PM
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Something may have chewed off a wire in there somewhere, you may need to start digging.

See if this is it

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Grab a jumper cable, hook one end to the negative post on the battery and the other to a bolt on the motor and see if things work.

Are your terminals clean and tight ?

Sounds like a bad earth.
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Thanks guys. I tried both of your suggestions.

Bugsy: I can't find the wire in the reference picture you provided. Is that a '09 DL1000? I checked every visible wire I could see with the seat off. No chew marks. I guess I'm pulling the tank off now!

Rolex: When I attach the jumper to the battery negative post and the other end to an engine bolt, this allows the bike to fire up! Does this indicate a grounding issue? I guess I'm back to Bugsy's investigation?


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The ground wire from the battery to the engine case is definitely your problem. It's more likely to be a poor connection at either end of the stock wire than a problem with the wire itself.
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I think you should check and see if the battery is holding any current as it sounds like you have no battery hooked up until you hook up the jumper. I think this eliminates any wiring issues downstream of the battery and points to fried battery or incredible amounts of corrosion on the battery connection.

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I think you should check and see if the battery is holding any current as it sounds like you have no battery hooked up until you hook up the jumper. I think this eliminates any wiring issues downstream of the battery and points to fried battery or incredible amounts of corrosion on the battery connection.

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he did say that the charge didn't have to be turned on, just attached to the - post of the batt....
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Thanks guys. I tried both of your suggestions.

Bugsy: I can't find the wire in the reference picture you provided. Is that a '09 DL1000? I checked every visible wire I could see with the seat off. No chew marks. I guess I'm pulling the tank off now!

Rolex: When I attach the jumper to the battery negative post and the other end to an engine bolt, this allows the bike to fire up! Does this indicate a grounding issue? I guess I'm back to Bugsy's investigation?


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try this from my 2007 V shop manual. for reference i pointed out where the clutch slave cylinder is.

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he did say that the charge didn't have to be turned on, just attached to the - post of the batt....
Thanks for pointing that out!

If it only works when the clip is attached to the port then you still have to suspect that something is going on at that end of things. Either the wires aren't connecting properly, the terminals on the battery are messed up, or one or more wires at the battery end are messed up.

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