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post #1 of 10 Old 02-02-2007, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
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Question Any Kawasaki Nomad owners out there?

I was wondering if any of you owns (or used to own) a Kawasaki Nomad. Due to knee problems brought on by my Strom last season, I may have to sell it and go back to a cruiser. :cry: I’d like to ask you about your ownership experience and ideally, see the bike. I’m most interested in pre-2005 models. Thanks.

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post #2 of 10 Old 02-02-2007, 01:49 PM
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Sorry .. i'm not a Nomad owner, but I am a cruiser owner (VT750 ACE)...

Keep me in mind when you're selling your V-Strom.. I'm in the market for one...

THanks !
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post #3 of 10 Old 02-03-2007, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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Sorry .. i'm not a Nomad owner, but I am a cruiser owner (VT750 ACE)...

Keep me in mind when you're selling your V-Strom.. I'm in the market for one...

THanks !
Will do Raphy. If I have to sell it, I will advertise it here first. I am working hard to overcome what I think is bursitis on both knees near the medial collateral ligament. I have been to a physiotherapist (no dramatic improvement) and the next step is an orthopedic knee specialist. I really want to keep the Strom. I think it's the perfect bike to explore rural Ontario.

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2005 Blue DL650 (sold with regret - hurt the knees)
2007 Boulevard C50 (Wife's bike)

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Will do Raphy. If I have to sell it, I will advertise it here first. I am working hard to overcome what I think is bursitis on both knees near the medial collateral ligament. I have been to a physiotherapist (no dramatic improvement) and the next step is an orthopedic knee specialist. I really want to keep the Strom. I think it's the perfect bike to explore rural Ontario.

Ya, I would keep the Strom - hope your knee get better !!!
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post #5 of 10 Old 02-10-2007, 12:27 AM
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Knee relief?

Throttlehound, I saw on eBay a pair of footpegs for the V-Strom that project forward of the controls. These do nothing to the placement of the controls themselves, so there is a potential hazard in having your right foot somewhat remote from the brake. They are item 160083313369 and the seller wants US$80 for them. The seller is very near Yankeetown FL, about 70 miles north of Tampa.

By offering an alternate angle for your knees, these may make the difference between keeping the V-Strom and having to swap to something that may not solve the problem. I have had two passengers with knee problems, and they have expressed relief at being able to reduce the angle of the bend. (I let them use my footpegs for a while, and rested my feet awkwardly on other parts of the motorcycle.)

You sure are right about the V-Strom being the bike to ride on Ontario's highways. Muskoka is a whole lot of fun on a V-Strom!

Take a look at those pegs!
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The ebay pegs

Hi Keith:

Thanks for suggesting those ebay pegs. They look like a clever and simple design. I have also looked at Dan Vesel's, or attaching pegs to my engine guards as well as lowered footpegs such as motorcycle larry's or pegs from a Buell Uly.

At this point, I believe my issue is not so much the knee bend, but working the gear shift and rear brake from the bent knees position of the Strom. My only other bike was Volusia. Since my legs are so long (36" inseam), my knees rest on the sides of the gas tank above the black plastic trim. When I need to shift or brake, I have to turn my feet inwards relative to my upper legs, more than someone with shorter legs. I think that operating the controls from this somewhat pigeon-toed position is the problem.

I do not ride on the 400 series highways hardly at all, so I'm constantly shifting and braking. So I think that highway or forward pegs will not benefit me much. I have seen forward controls for the Strom made by someone in Germany but I hate the look and idea of them on the Strom. One of the big advantages of the Strom for me was the greatly increased ground clearance compared to a cruiser. I really hate to give that up.

For now I am going to try lengthening the gear shift pedal and greatly reducing my use of the rear brake and see if that helps. I did not expect that the inflammation in my knees would extend right through the winter as it has. If I'd known it was this serious, I would have done more experimenting during the season with modifying the controls or my riding position. I also would have gone to a knee specialist.

The good news is that I have made a lot of progress in the past 2 months, and expect that this problem will likely be 99% gone in the next 2 months. The big question is whether it will recur and how badly. Only time will tell. Which is why I asked about the Nomad. If I have to go back to a cruiser (easy on my knees, not so great for the butt and back), the Nomad is my first choice.

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2005 Blue DL650 (sold with regret - hurt the knees)
2007 Boulevard C50 (Wife's bike)

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post #7 of 10 Old 02-12-2007, 11:34 AM
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One more possibility for comfort

Throttlehound, I understand the situation, and I see that forward pegs will not help materially. I have one suggestion that you may try or not.

How about taking off the seat and temporarily strapping on a slab of tough foam, just for a test ride. If you are free to slide back on the slab, you may find a more comfortable position for your long legs. The stock seat, with its step, offers no choice of where to sit, but having a choice might give you relief by letting you slide along and change position as you ride. I like doing that on my GS550, which has a slab seat.

If it works, you can probably find a seat with ruined upholstery, and custom craft a seat that suits you for a modest price. When you need to carry a passenger, revert to the stock seat, else the passenger will probably be sliding into you at every stop ... which might be good or bad depending on the nature and intentions of the passenger.

I hope this helps.
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Thanks again Keith. I think I can achieve what you are suggesting with my current setup. I replaced the stock seat last August with the Suzuki Gel Seat then added a sheepskin pad to that. So I have raised the seat height considerably over stock already and the gel seat does allow me to sit back further by an inch or so. This did provide a lot of additional comfort, especially to the butt! To level it out completely, I would only need to slide a folded towel under the sheepskin. This would also give an indication of whether lowered pegs would be helpful.

I did a number of 400-600 km days last season and really did not mind the knee bend position. It was simply this tightness that sometimes became a burning sensation in the inside part of both knees that was the problem. Actually, I didn't even notice it most of the time while riding. Just when I got off the bike, and for a short time afterwards. It was only towards the end of the season, that I started to notice that I was getting "kinks" and "twinges" lasting between rides in the exact spots that were tight or burning. These kinks and twinges have lasted from mid-November to now, but are much less frequent. I can still ice skate and downhill ski as long and hard as I want to without any additional problems.

I'm still pretty convinced that the issue is operating the gear shift and rear brake in a pigeon-toed position. If I can extend the shifter pedal so my foot is more aligned with my upper leg, I think I'll do much better. I tend to overuse the rear brake anyway, so minimizing the use of it should help as well.

Thanks for your suggestions. I'll keep you posted in the upcoming season. Hopefully the snow and road salt will be gone by early April and I can get riding by Easter weekend.

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2005 Blue DL650 (sold with regret - hurt the knees)
2007 Boulevard C50 (Wife's bike)

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post #9 of 10 Old 02-13-2007, 09:33 PM
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The prognosis is good!

Thanks for the good news, Throttlehound. You are certainly an optomist to expect salt-free roads by Easter, but I share your hopes. I will not be in Ontario to see forsythia appear, but I will be there before the tulips.

My grandfather lived in Ottawa, and when the new calendars came out, he always hoped to find Easter in March. He felt an early Easter meant an early spring.

I believe you will enjoy the extensions on the gearshift and perhaps also on the rear brake. I recall times when a damaged control was hard to reach, and the toe-in position was distinctly tiresome and potentially dangerous.

You might try fabricating the extensions from plastic pipe. It's cheap and tough, comes in various sizes, is easy to machine, and best of all can be softened with a hair dryer and shaped to fit the task and made to stay aboard without fasteners or tape or glue. If you think of a better material, please let me know. I think the relative flimsiness of plastic pipe is also an advantage; if anything impacts the extension, the cheap plastic will give instead of using its added leverage to ruin a costly control.

I made a sketch of a chunk of pipe that might be easy to make and install. If the part that goes beyond the turn of the lever is softened and rounded, it ought to stay on until you want it off. Then it can be softened and tugged off.

Good luck!
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Keith, you make a good point about using plastic for the extension on the gear shift. I was thinking copper pipe or even thin walled steel, but being careful not to make it too long. Maybe just add an inch or so of extension. The rubber fitting on the gear shift is 3/4 " in diameter but so far the copper and steel pipe I have found (which is supposed to be 3/4 " as well) is actually about 1/16 larger and would be a sloppy fit. I would have to fill the gap with something - maybe duct tape. I will check Home Depot and see if they have any plastic pipe which would fit better.

Here's hoping that once the jet stream retreats back north where it should be, that spring will arrive very quickly. I love skiing, but this cold is ridiculous!

2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 (My newest - boosted to 688 cc)
2005 Blue DL650 (sold with regret - hurt the knees)
2007 Boulevard C50 (Wife's bike)

If your nose is close to the grindstone and you hold it here long enough, in time you’ll say there’s no such thing as brooks that babble and birds that sing. These three will all your world compose: just you, the stone, and your poor old nose.
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