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post #1 of 19 Old 10-01-2012, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
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After-market exhaust illegal in Canada?

Hi Canadian troopers,

I live in QC and was about to pull the trigger on Leo Vince pipes for my DL1000 but a fridn of mine told me they were illegal in QC and possibly in Canada.

Could anyone confirm that, please?

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post #2 of 19 Old 10-01-2012, 03:25 PM
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In Ontario, there are a few jurisdictions that have passed noise by-laws (Caledon, Edmonton and Windsor - maybe more), but it's usually something that is subject to local laws as opposed to being country wide or province wide. Also, a quick search on the all knowing Google showed nothing as far as la belle province. I am under the impression that the db meters are looking for exhausts emitting greater than 92db.

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By the way, it is also illegal but rarely enforced in some U.S. states. From Washington's law:
RCW 46.37.537
Motorcycles exhaust system.
No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motorcycle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the engine of such vehicle above that emitted by the muffler originally installed on the vehicle, and it shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle not equipped as required by this section, or which has been amplified as prohibited by this section.


Is there any aftermarket exhaust that is quieter than stock? If there was, would it sell?

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As I understand it (and I'm not a lawyer) the issue with after-market exhaust systems, for both cages and bikes, is that thou shalt not make any deliberate modification that will compromise the emission control systems of the vehicle. That's Federal law, not Provincial.

For example, if you have a factory exhaust system that includes a catalytic converter, and you chop it out to install an after-market system, that would be illegal, but then again the chances of some authority actually noticing that on a motorcycle are pretty slim.

And as far as I know your K6 Vee doesn't have a catalytic converter anyway, so go for it.
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As I understand it, and I am a lawyer...but this isn't legal advice...the Ontario Highway Traffic Act, freely available to review online, anytime, says about mufflers and noise:

Muffler
75. (1) Every motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle shall be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and excessive smoke, and no person shall use a muffler cut-out, straight exhaust, gutted muffler, hollywood muffler, by-pass or similar device upon a motor vehicle or motor assisted bicycle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (1).
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(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to,
(a) a motor-assisted bicycle with an attached motor that is driven entirely by electricity; or
(b) a motor vehicle that is driven entirely by electricity. 2009, c. 5, s. 31.
Fumes from engine
(3) The engine and power mechanism of every motor vehicle shall be so equipped and adjusted as to prevent the escape of excessive fumes or smoke. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (3).
Unnecessary noise
(4) A person having the control or charge of a motor vehicle shall not sound any bell, horn or other signalling device so as to make an unreasonable noise, and a driver of any motor vehicle shall not permit any unreasonable amount of smoke to escape from the motor vehicle, nor shall the driver at any time cause the motor vehicle to make any unnecessary noise, but this subsection does not apply to a motor vehicle of a municipal fire department while proceeding to a fire or answering a fire alarm call. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (4).
Alarm bell to be sounded
(5) Every motor vehicle, motor assisted bicycle and bicycle shall be equipped with an alarm bell, gong or horn, which shall be kept in good working order and sounded whenever it is reasonably necessary to notify pedestrians or others of its approach. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (5).
Prohibition as to use of siren horn
(6) No vehicle other than an ambulance, fire or police department vehicle, public utility emergency vehicle or vehicle operated by the Ministry shall be equipped with a siren horn or a device producing a sound which so nearly resembles that produced by a siren horn as to deceive or confuse. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 75 (6).


Since the Constitution says the provinces are in charge of property and civil rights, and cars and their sounds fall under those headings, the only way the Feds would have an interest would be for imports and exports, or if the loud pipes are on a Great Lakes cargo ship.

I will not tell you that the Leo Vince pipes are not illegal, but they're not illegal. There is, however, a provincial offence for making excessive noise with a vehicle. I believe the fine is $85.

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(5) Every motor vehicle, motor assisted bicycle and bicycle shall be equipped with an alarm bell, gong or horn...
A gong? Really? For that matter, what is a "Hollywood Muffler" (not quoted but still in the mix somewhere)?

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Thanks guys for all the input.

Riders here seem to be getting fines left, right, in the center. You can see cops inserting a stick in exhaust and measuring it as well. They then stick a fine on your bike and you're due in court (should you decide to contest it).

I think I'll try and see what happens.

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I also heard Highway bars are illegal in Canada. You must keep your feet on the pegs when riding.

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I also heard Highway bars are illegal in Canada. You must keep your feet on the pegs when riding.
Uh, no.

Highway traffic laws vary from province to province, but I have yet to hear of a province that has turned it's legislative mind to highway pegs. If you stand on your pegs in Ontario, however, you might get charged with stunting.

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If you stand on your pegs in Ontario, however, you might get charged with stunting.
Yup. Same here on the coast. Nova Scotia passed that stupid law a few years ago and, although I forget the exact wording, standing on the pegs can be (mis)interpreted as stunting and result in up to $2400 in fines.

Good thing they've got all that time to go after us criminals and coincidentally generate tax revenue in the process. Ba$tards.

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