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post #1 of 13 Old 06-27-2006, 11:49 AM Thread Starter
 
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Crossing the border (VT to Montreal) info?

I'll be crossing the border from VT en route to Montreal and going back same day last part of July. Any recommendations for this border crossing shindig? Can I simply turn my V1 (radar) off or should I take it off the bike completely? Do they inspect the bike or just want to inspect my ID? Any suggestions or recommendations greatly appreciated.

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post #2 of 13 Old 06-27-2006, 12:46 PM
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I'd remove the radar and hide it away. If you have a passport give that to them first, birth certificate if you don't and have your drivers licence ready as well.

As for inspections they can flag you for anything, I had the dogs through my car at Detroit because I gave the border guard a smart-assed answer to a really dumb question. Be polite and you'll be on your way with no hassles.

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I'd remove the radar and hide it away. If you have a passport give that to them first, birth certificate if you don't and have your drivers licence ready as well.

As for inspections they can flag you for anything, I had the dogs through my car at Detroit because I gave the border guard a smart-assed answer to a really dumb question. Be polite and you'll be on your way with no hassles.
Good advice from The Shepherd there.

The border inspectors here in the GWN generally are looking for three things:

1) undeclared goods being imported (i.e. left in Canada) that they can charge a tax, and possibly, a duty on

2) Illicit drugs

3) Firearms

The best advice I can add is to volunteer no information that is not asked for first and keep answers as simple, direct and truthful as possible. If they ask for the dollar value of anything being imported (if any) just assume they mean the U.S. dollar value. That will present a lower amount and they don't bother collecting taxes here unless the dollar value is above about $50 or they're bored stiff so the lower the better.

Since Stromette is a U.S. resident (although it's hard to guess exactly where of, at any given time ) the border guard will almost certainly ask if she's packing firearms. This is one question where it's most important to be truthful as they will get quite excited if they search and find an undeclared weapon. It happens at our border station a few times a year and it's usually someone from the Southern states that gets busted. A stiffish fine and forfeiture of said firearm is usually the end of it but I recall one poor sap got thrown into the slammer for a few days in one case where the judge was looking to make a point, I guess. Some firearms, like hunting rifles may be brought in relatively easily with the proper paperwork but the border guards are very alert for U.S. citizens, especially from the Deep South, trying to sneak guns in so don't even think about it.

Anyway, as long as Strommette doesn't get sassy with the inspector she should be OK. Let us know how it goes.

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Highway traffic act of Ontario.

Speed measuring warning device prohibited

(2) No person shall drive on a highway a motor vehicle that is equipped with or that carries or contains a speed measuring warning device. 1996, c. 33, s. 12.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/S...sh/90h08_e.htm

This is the link to the ENTIRE Highway traffic Act of Ontario. The Province of Quebec has similar rules btw.

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This is more complete.

Speed measuring warning device prohibited

(2) No person shall drive on a highway a motor vehicle that is equipped with or that carries or contains a speed measuring warning device. 1996, c. 33, s. 12.

Powers of police officer

(3) A police officer may at any time, without a warrant, stop, enter and search a motor vehicle that he or she has reasonable grounds to believe is equipped with or carries or contains a speed measuring warning device contrary to subsection (2) and may seize and take away any speed measuring warning device found in or upon the motor vehicle. 1996, c. 33, s. 12.


Forfeiture of device

(4) Where a person is convicted of an offence under this section, any device seized under subsection (3) by means of which the offence was committed is forfeited to the Crown. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 79 (4).

Penalty

(5) Every person who contravenes subsection (2) is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable to a fine of not less than $100 and not more than $1,000. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 79 (5).

Exception

(6) Subsection (2) does not apply to a person who is transporting speed measuring warning devices in sealed packages in a motor vehicle from a manufacturer to a consignee. 1996, c. 33, s. 12

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And just to make sure

Hope this helps.

Btw, Border guards are Federal Peace Officers, and therefore have powers to arrest, seize and detain. They can enforce the HTA as well.

But smile and be polite and you will be fine. Take your helmet off, they like to see your face. Only one bike at the wicket at a time, make sure your partner stays behind and waits for you to be done. Have your licence, Birth Certificate handy and turn the bike off so that he/she can hear you.

Enjoy Montreal. Try a restaurant called "La Belle Province" and order a "poutine"! You'll be impressed!

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Will a COPY of birth certificate suffice or must it be the original?
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Border.

A copy is perfectly acceptable.

The requirement of the birth certificate is a concept that originated in the U.S.
The U.S. Government is currently tabling laws that will require all persons entering the U.S. from Canada, including U.S. citizens returning to their own country from Canada to produce a passport or a "special I.D." card with biometric information. This requirement is currently slated to come into effect in 2008.

We, in Canada, are much more lenient towards visitors crossing our land borders.

Air traffic is another matter entirely.

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A copy is perfectly acceptable.

Ok, surely w/a US passport (though expired 6mo ago), an Driver's License & a copy of my Birth Certificate I can get across the dang line! :roll: I think I'll just put the V1 in my Givi bag inside my laptop case. If things are bad enough that they search my Givi bag and laptop case and confiscate a radar that is not being used then the loss of a radar will be considered the least of my worries at that point. :wink:

Thanks for the help.

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I've crossed the border a few times on my bike. American customs is harder on Canadians than the other way around. No need to remove the helmet, do take off sunglasses, have your I.D. handy (they really do prefer a passport) and they like it if you shut off the bike when you are stopped so you can hear one another.

Don't worry about it, they won't hassle you. Just make sure you don't have any firearms and it'll be a breeze.

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