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post #1 of 51 Old 04-06-2006, 01:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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Stromette needs help in Canada

Greetings Canadien Stromtroopers,

Stromette is planning on running from ME to WA thru Canada in August as part of a "Four Corner" ride. In the process of doing some preliminary planning and this seems like a good place to ask a few questions...

* What recommendations do you have for travel East of Quebec City and West of Ottawa re road conditions, lodging, etc?

* Of course we all know how reliable our Stroms are but just in case repairs are needed how easy/difficult will it be to find service?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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post #2 of 51 Old 04-06-2006, 03:25 AM
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West of Ottawa puts you in Ontario. Being the province in Canada with the most population (10 million of us) you'll find that at any given time you are really not too far from "civilization". We are no different than say....Ohio.

Road conditions are also the same though some states in the US have really nice roads while many of Ontarios are around the same level as Michigans.....tar snakes galore.

The bigger cities will all have various motel / hotel chains that you'll be familiar with as well at the standard Mom and Pop overnight type of motels, while smaller places will have only the latter. Same with food, big cities = McDonalds, small places = local greasy spoon.

As for bike dealerships the same in the States applies here. Big cities will have all the brands, smaller places might have one or two under the same roof. Go to www.suzuki.ca and you can type in the bigger places you are travelling through and write down the name, number and address of the Suzuki dealerships in Ontario....or anywhere else in Canada.

I'm not sure if AAA covers Canada or not, my CAA membership works in the US so I would imagine that you could get towed if needs be on an AAA card but it would be worth looking up.

Here is a map to help you possibly pick a route through my backyard, http://www.noinfo.com/ontario_bikeroads.jpg

Enjoy your trip.

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Are you looking to just "pass through" on the hghways or are you looking to get off the direct route and explore a little?
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Are you looking to just "pass through" on the hghways or are you looking to get off the direct route and explore a little?
Unfortunately, no flower sniffin' on this jaunt. It's a "go ride" - the "Four Corners" run is based on riding the 4 corners of the country... San Ysidro, CA --> Key West, FL --> Madawaska, ME --> Blaine, WA (they may be done in any order but this is my route) and doing so in less than 21 days. That said, plan is to push fairly hard the first 75% of trip b/c I'd reeeeally like to somehow get your Rockies in. As long as I hit the corner in Blaine, WA from ME it doesn't matter which route is taken.

This type of ride is unusual for Stromette as superslabs are usually avoided whenever possible and it's the journey not the destination that's the goal. This is the exact opposite and thus the challenge... it IS the destination (the corners) that counts and to do so w/in the time frame the slab will be used (hopefully to a lesser degree as possible though).

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!

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Slab it is then. You'll ride highway 401 through most of Ontario. Its pretty straight and moves pretty well. The big bottleneck is Toronto, specially around rush hour. Like The Shepherd said, you've not far from civilization along that route. Probably want to peel off, just past London, and take the 402 so you cross the border at Sarnia/ Port Huron and avoid Detroit.



This might be interesting for you:

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tra...ra/camhome.htm
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Cross at Quebec city, stay north and avoid Montreal, enjoy the ride into Ottawa.



From Ottawa head towards Thunder Bay, avoid the 401(boring) and Toronto. Travelling thru Montreal and Toronto can eat a lot of time, depending on time of day. Jeez - travel all this way and not see Gaspe.
Pick up MS Streets and Trips and play with routes. should only be about $25.
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Wow, fantastic!

Are radar detectors illegal in certain places in Canada? How common is "Instant On" used by LEO radar there? Any unusual laws I need to be aware of? What about safety in terms of leaving bike outside while at hotels (especially vandelism)? I reckon you guys don't have lane-splitting do you? :P

Any particular areas to be highly concerned with involving animals/big game on road that might be best to travel in daylight?
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No radar detectors allowed (our cops aren't very smart and they need all the advantages they can get :lol: ).

No lane splitting.

Stay on the Southern route, 401 & 402, and there is very little concern about wildlife. Head North and the situation changes. Depending on the season, deer, moose, bears and all those other, smaller, creatures are possible.
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Pick up MS Streets and Trips and play with routes. should only be about $25.[/img]

Thanks for the tips. We've decided to take a more traditional approach to the planning and have opted to research and plot our path by talking to people and using paper maps. My riding partner and I think meeting and interacting w/ people will be much more rewarding and memorable than strengthening a relationship (dependency?) with electronics. Aside from pre-ride planning, at this point I doubt either one of us will carry a GPS. Yes, run a 21 day jaunt covering over 10,500mi w/no GPS. We've reconsidered the flower sniff'n part and have decided to do a National Parks tour (collecting stamps from obscure places) simultaneously w/the 4C part. My riding partner is twice my age so he has MUCH more experience w/this "classic" approach than I do but since it was my idea I can't rag him too much! :wink: I was busy last wkend and will be on a BBG1500mi this wkend but as soon as he and I can get together and go over your recommendations I'd like to get back to you w/add'tl questions if that's copasetic w/you. Thanks again for your help.

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The looping northern route may be quicker.

If you are going north of Lake Superior, you can choose the route that hugs the north shore of Lake Superior because it looks shorter than the looping route farther north, but I drove both by van in 2002 and I verified for myself that the route through Hearst and "Keep-us-cussing" is quicker than the shore-hugging route.

For scenery, follow the lake, but that will cost you a couple of hours.

Either way you go, you will pass through Ignace, ON. Try to do this at lunchtime, and stop at Captain Ron's for some delicious fish and chips. It's on the south side of the road, across from the IGA supermarket ... at least that is how it was in 2002.

Get a map from the government of Ontario, and study it. The little picnic tables denote rest areas, such as they are: some outhouses, some tables, and generally a stream that may or may not have water safe for drinking.

You will see little cairns made of stone atop every rock cut you pass through. Each of these is called an INUKSHUK and is a model of what you can find on some hilltops MUCH farther north, where one hilltop looks pretty much like another unless it is topped by one of these helpful sentinels. The temptation to stop and build another inukshuk is just about overwhelming. Succumb if you like; nobody will know unless you tell.

My trip starts and ends in Toronto, after visiting eight states and Vancouver BC, but I will go south of Superior both ways.

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