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post #1 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 05:00 PM Thread Starter
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Looks like Harper's gone...

Wowzers! The Liberals and NDP have agreed to form a coalition government!

They're turfing Harper out.

Pretty amazing times, eh?

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post #2 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 05:18 PM
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post #3 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 05:21 PM
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Living in the US the last 10 years I haven't been following this as close as I should have. I don't feel bad seeing a Conservative tossed, but I have to wonder how well a coalition will govern.

Are they going to be beholden to the traitors, er, BQ? As much as I dislike the two party system here in the states when the Reform and PC's got together the left in Canada was screwed by having the left leaning vote spread over several parties.

In general I don't think minority govt's or coalitions are a bad thing as it prevents one ideology from running roughshod over the country like 95% of the people voted for it instead of 51%.

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post #4 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 05:33 PM
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Are they going to be beholden to the traitors, er, BQ?
While I am an anglophone from the East Coast, I believe the BQ has much more depth than many people realize.

No single issue party can survive, if the BQ is still around, and Quebec has not left Confederation, other needs are being met. If the BQ were as shallow as we have been led to believe, they would have falied long ago.

It seems to me that the BQ is a left leaning party that makes up a part of our political landscape and makes contributions for all of Canada.

I could be wrong, but there must be more to the story than a plan to leave.


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post #5 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 06:28 PM
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Looks like Stefane Dion has been pretty busy for a guy who resigned as the Liberal leader on October 20th.
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post #6 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 08:01 PM
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All because Harper wanted to cut public funding from the political parties. I say lets have another election. The Tories would win it on this issue alone.
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post #7 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 08:21 PM
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I'm not a Harper fan, but I prefer the wait-and-see approach they have taken toward dealing with problems with the economy over a throw-money-at-it approach that is being suggested the last while by the Liberals and the NDP (and has been implemented the past couple of months in the US).

It will become necessary to throw increased levels of money into public works and certain industries, and I'm fine with that, but when we've spent the last 15 years digging out of budget deficits and deep debt I would hate to see that good work go out the window on ill-conceived spending plans. If the US economy goes into sustained recession there isn't enough money in the federal or provincial budgets to avoid some economic pain here in Canada, and my main concern is a cycle of government that makes decisions based on short-term populist sentiment.

If a Liberal/NDP coalition government can implement sensible economic plans, and start to move our economy and culture more towards a greener and more sustainable model, then I'm all in favour of this change.


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OHHH. This is a Canaaaadian thread.
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post #9 of 44 Old 12-01-2008, 11:29 PM
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Whats even harder to take is the fact that the man that led the Liberals to their lowest seat total in history and was being turfed by his own party will now be Prime Minister.

The Block shouldnt even exist as a Federal Party as they provide no representation outside of Quebec. The Libs and NDP are going to cave to the BQ's demands in order to try and maintain this sham.

I realize it is indeed constitutional, but the fact that a non-Federal party is able to gain so many seats that any further majority governments may be hard to come by.

The NDP..well, what can I say?

These guys are using the current world financial situation to gain power that they were not voted into by the Canadian people.

Look at Israel if you want a history on the failure of coalition governments.

I hope the GG does the right thing and (as much as I hate it) calls an election. What, are we living in some African nation now?....


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I'm so pissed about this I can hardly see straight. I don't want the Liberals, NDP and Bloc anywhere near the purse strings during this financial crisis. How can we have any faith in a coalition including a Liberal Party that suffered it's worst defeat in history under Mr. Potatohead, the NDP with the annoying and ineffective Layton at the helm, and a third party who's ambition is the breakup of this country. This has nothng to do with the good of the country. This is merely a power grab by three desparate parties and their lame duck leaders who can not get power any other way.

We will pay for this economically on the world stage. Give me another election and we will bitch slap these morons back to where they belong.
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