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post #1 of 19 Old 03-31-2008, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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Question Route help from Niagara Falls, NY/Ont to Windsor, Ont/Detroit, MI

My wife and I will be traveling from southcentral Pennsylvania on Thu. 10 Apr. '08 to Niagara Falls, NY/Ont, where we will spend the night. In the morning we will be heading to Windsor, Ont./Detroit, MI, where we will be attending the AMA Supercross at Ford Field in Detroit on Sat. and then returning home on Sun.. Wondering if fellow Canadian Stromtroopers could recommend a scenic route, mostly paved roads with a few unpaved roads thrown in for good measure. Would like to follow the north shore of Lake Erie on the way west and then take a different route on the way back to Niagara Falls on Sunday, perhaps the southwestern region of Lake Ontario. Thanks for any help you can provide.
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post #2 of 19 Old 03-31-2008, 06:56 PM
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You didn't say how you would be traveling? By cage or bike. April tenth around London Ont. we are expecting daytime highs around 10 C (50 F). I Haven't made the trip you are proposing but hwy #3 (the Talbot Trail) goes pretty much the whole way to Windsor. What I can recommend is a side trip off of the talbot trail to Port Ryerses then take Front road over to Port Rowan. Follow front road out of Port Rowan to hwy 59. At 59 a left will take you down to Long Point. Long point is a neat jut of land out into lake Erie. Only 1 way in/out so you will return to the corner (59 and front) and turn left to continue. It is one of those roads that changes names at the corner. It becomes lakeshore road. This will take you into Port Burwell. Lakeshore is gravel at times and ends at a "T" intersection in Port Burwell. Left and then a right on Bridge st. Bridge st becomes brown road becomes Nova Scotia Line. This will take you past those giant wind turbines. Nova scotia line "T" intersects with Imperial road (hwy 73) A right will take you to Aylmer and back to #3 (the Talbot trail) or choose a left instead head to Port bruce. As you come into port bruce you cross a bridge. First right is Dexter line. This is the route out of Port bruce but Port Bruce is basicly a circular route and you will end up at this corner again if you miss it or choose to have a look around. I always take a lap when I am there. Once on Dexter Line follow it past a nice big "S" bend. The next corner is Quaker road. Go right. This takes you through Sparta. Still on Quaker rd enjoy some sweeping curves. "T" intersection at #3 (Talbot Trail) This is one of my favorite local(for me) Rides. Anything to the east or west I havn't riden yet so I have no recomendations but the above is a treat on a bike. Nice curves, beautiful vistas, Quaint little towns and far enough off the beaten path. Maybe someone else here can fill in rest of the way for you. Good Luck

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Scenic route: Part 1 of about 3

SoPaRider,

The scenery starts before you leave PA! if you can take the time to go as far west as Franklin PA, you can go along US62 almost all the way to Canada, and find lovely pavement most of the way, following the Alleghany River for much of the PA part. I suggest leaving 62 at Eden NY and going north to the Thruway.

If Franklin is too far west, consider finding your way to DuBois and driving 219 to Buffalo. I haven't driven this since 1999, but I liked it plenty then!

I have more ideas than time, so I will be back with some ideas about Ontario.

Best of luck! I think PXX is providing excellent guidance!
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Scenic route: Part 2

The best map of Ontario that I have seen is the map provided by the province, free at information kiosks. An information kiosk in Ontario is indicated by a sign with a brown question mark on a white background.

I do not know how to find one close to the Peace Bridge, which is the bridge between Buffalo NY and Fort Erie ON. I suggest that when the Canada Customs inspector is through with you and welcomes you to Canada you ask two questions:

How do I get onto the Niagara Parkway?

Where can I find an Ontario Information Kiosk?

Niagara Parkway is a pleasant and scenic road that hugs the west side of the Niagara River, all the way from Fort Erie to Niagara Falls. If you want to see the falls, take it all the way.

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You could stop in Thorold at the Locks (just off the Expressway) and watch a freighter go through the canal locks. Nearby, there is a tunnel under the canal that has spaced lights on the sides that make it feel like you are being shot out the other end (if you go fast). The road along the lake (Lakeshore Road?) is very slow, at some points cottages are inches from the edge of the road, and the speed limit is 40 kph. If you have time, follow the top edge of the Niagara escarpment north on Ridge Road into Hamilton. http://bikeroads.atspace.com/ has directions to most of the good riding in Ontario. http://www.gorideontario.com/motorcy...e.html?lang=en also has a bunch of info and maps (zoomable pdfs) for riding in Ontario. http://www.ontariotravel.net/greatdr...p_niagara.html shows the route from Niagara to Port Dover. (Hwy 3). Ontario travel guides are at http://www.ontariotravel.net/TcisCtr...es&language=EN

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In case he does not want to wait to get to a kiosk, the exact same map is provided in pdf format at:

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tra...thindexpdf.htm

Maps 1, 2 and 3 seem relevent.

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The previous posts have excellent advice and #3 will take you pretty much all the way from the Peace Bridge to Windsor. It will take much longer than the freeway though. How's things in C-burg? I'm still thinkjng seriously about riding down to check out the Boswell place and on the 10th I'll most likely be heading over to Binghampton, NY for a job fair/hiring event. BTW, watch your speed in Ontario. They have recently instituted some very draconian anit-speeding laws with astronomical fines.
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They have recently instituted some very draconian anit-speeding laws with astronomical fines.
Good point 50km/h over the posted limit and it is considered racing/stunting. Up to a $10,000 fine, no licence and they take your ride for 7 days. Depending on the cop, he could consider standing on your pegs as stunting and the same law applies:mad:

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Scenic Route part trois.

Or part 3 if you like. Ontario is partly bilingual, and you will see a little bit of French on some signs in the part you will see. Farther north, French is used more. Where was I?

Oh, Travel information kiosks. V-Tom is correct that the Internet can provide most of the information available at the Travel Information Centres, but it is far easier to grab a handful of pamphlets than print what you want from a web site and then remember to take it with you. I found the three TIC locations that will matter most to you:

Three Ontario Travel Information Centers for you to consider.

This is at an ideal border-crossing spot from Buffalo NY. The Niagara Parkway starts at Fort Erie, but you will want help finding how to get to it. Recent changes to roads near the bridge suggest you ask for advice. You will probably find no services on the Niagara parkway, because the marina is seasonal and the season has probably not started. The $ symbol means you can trade US$ for Canadian money.

FORT ERIE - Peace Bridge in the Ontario Welcome Centre ($)
350 Bertie Street, Unit 1 L2A 6S6
Tel: (905) 871-3505

This is at the next border crossing north of Fort Erie, about an hour north via the slow (36 MPH) Niagara Parkway. Use this only if you want to visit Niagara Falls. I think it may be difficult to park near this.

NIAGARA FALLS - Rainbow Bridge ($)
5355 Stanley Ave. L2E 7C2
Tel: (905) 358-3221

This is for your return journey. Sarnia is across the Blue Water Bridge from Port Huron Michigan.

SARNIA - Blue Water Bridge ($)
1455 Venetian Blvd. N7T 7W7
Tel: (519) 344-7403

The numbering of Ontario roads is very peculiar and confusing. When you see a number in a trapezoid (flowerpot silhouette) that means a county road, and the road may change its number when you cross a county line. If you head west from Fort Erie (instead of taking Niagara Parkway north to Niagara Falls) then Provincial Highway 3 (a shield on the map) is an excellent compromise between efficiency of travel and scenery. When you get to Dunnville, Provincial 3 goes northward, and Haldimand County road 3 goes west, keeping its number 3 when it crosses into Norfolk County. Last summer I rode the highway between Port Ryerse (County 42 becomes County 24 near Port Bruce) and Port Stanley. I enjoyed this ride, and stopped to photograph the lighthouse at Port Burwell; it was an important beacon.

West of Port Stanley, I have no recent experience, so I defer to others, except for this important recommendation.

If you want to meet snarly stupid border guards and spend lots of time with red tape, cross the Ambassador Bridge from Windsor to Detroit, or the other direction with a bit less hassle. If you want cheerful and competent border guards, cross from Sarnia to Port Huron via the Blue Water Bridge. On the map this may seem like a waste of time. In reality, the extra time and hassle and incompetence at the Ambassador Bridge will more than make up for the shorter route. Believe me, you will drive away from the Ambassador Bridge shaking your heads and saying, "You know, we should have listened to Keith".

If you DO choose to cross at Sarnia, you can go through Oil City and Petrolia and learn about the origins of Canada's oil industry.

Bonne chance et bon voyage en Ontario!
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Or part 3 if you like. Ontario is partly bilingual, and you will see a little bit of French on some signs in the part you will see. Farther north, French is used more. Where was I?
North Bay? Hearst? Middle of nowhere?

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West of Port Stanley, I have no recent experience, so I defer to others, ....
If you go through Payne's Mills about 10km west of St. Thomas on Hwy 3, think of me. It was named after my great-great...grandfather and my family lived there continuously up to and including my Dad. If you wander through the cemetery at Talbotville you'll see a stone for Sturgeon and Evylean Payne. They're my grandparents. You can probably figure out where my forum name came from.

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