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post #1 of 38 Old 12-10-2015, 12:06 AM Thread Starter
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Hello Aussies,

I'm planning a trip from Melbourne to Uluru (Ayers Rock) and back in March - April. I will be travelling alone (unless someone decides to join me ? any takers ?). I don't have any friends that have motorcycles unfortunately.

I haven't made any plans as of yet but the trip will be at least 5.000 Km's in 10 days. Is it too much ?

My wishes:
  • Some tent sleep (love the tents)
  • Visit Coober Pedy (stay at motel possibly)
  • Visit Ayers Rock
  • Return a slightly different route if possible

What I have until now:
  • V-Strom 650
  • Tent
  • Sleeping bag
  • self inflatable mattress
  • hard box

Still Need to get:
  • Centre stand
  • Bash/skid plate
  • powerful spot lights (just in case night catches me somewhere)

Anyone made this trip or similar and has any pointers to give ?
Anyone done similar trips and have pointers to give ?

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In Coober Pedy, don't miss the opportunity to experience underground camping.

Riba's Underground Camping
Riba's Underground Camping Coober Pedy

I just checked the web site and nothing seems to have changed since my visit 7 years ago.

$24/night includes the opal mine tour. A must see.


As for the rest of your adventure

March/April daytime temperatures are still quite high. If you are travelling from Melbourne and not used to the heat you are in for a surprise!

Very risky to start your morning ride before 8:00 am due to wildlife on roads (kangaroo, dingo, emu. buffalo) and finish no later than 5:00pm. Don't forget to factor in time to look around so travel Erldunda to Uluru, a day at Uluru and the next day back that is 3 days total. A further refinement is back via King's Canyon, add an extra day.

Your 10 day trip is looking a little short to me.

If you are not used to the heat I suggest 300-400Km per day max.

Overnight camp at Erldunda roadhouse.

Accommodation at Ayers Rock really expensive, suggest Yulara or Petermann

Finally, I wouldn't consider travelling alone. My ideal (minimal) solution is 3 bikes/1 utility (or car and trailer). Each day one rider puts his bike in the ute and drives it [the ute] so you get to ride your bike 2 out of 3 days.

Not trying to put you off but a breakdown/mishap in central Australia is a little different to in a suburban environment.
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Add in a radiator guard. 12V air pump and repair plug kit.
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Finally, I wouldn't consider travelling alone. My ideal (minimal) solution is 3 bikes/1 utility (or car and trailer). Each day one rider puts his bike in the ute and drives it [the ute] so you get to ride your bike 2 out of 3 days.

Not trying to put you off but a breakdown/mishap in central Australia is a little different to in a suburban environment.
Seriously, 3 bikes and a car with a trailer?????????
Where's the fun in that?

Personally, I love traveling by my self or with one other like minded person.

If you're sticking to the blacktop Julles, there not much that can go wrong as long as your bike is well prepared pre trip and you ride sensibly.
Good tyre's, chain, freshly serviced engine and luggage well secured.
When fitting out a new bike for travel, I do a couple of overnighter's first up that will show up any weak link's, it will also help your proprieties of what is needed.
Must have a tyre plug and repair kit and know how to use it. along with a mini compressor.
Satellite phone wouldn't hurt either, Spot Tracker if you plan on leaving the beaten track. (minimum 2 people if you plan on going off road)
Only other thing, work out your route and confirm that you can purchase fuel, carry extra if required along with at least 5-10 litres of water.
Lastly, remember the 6 P's
Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
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Add in a radiator guard. 12V air pump and repair plug kit.
Good thinking Brett

Not trying to sound ridiculous or to put you off, Julles but ...........

Maybe not a bad idea to have a spare set of tyres (in the ute). The nearest motorcycle spares are probably in Alice Springs around 450Kms away from Uluru.

What I am suggesting is that there are a number of risks travelling alone on a bike, accident, illness and breakdown and a little planning for such eventualities is not unreasonable.

I did a trip some years ago and on the return from Darwin I was getting a little nervous regarding my back tyre.
I stopped in Mt Isa which has 2 motorcycle shops but neither had the size available. This was on Thursday and both shops offered to have a tyre available by the following Tuesday.
The next day I arranged to have a tyre freighted from Townsville to Cloncurry. I rode to Cloncurry the following morning and fitted it myself.

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I will be travelling alone (unless someone decides to join me ? any takers ?). I don't have any friends that have motorcycles unfortunately.
Time to get some?
Loads and loads of clubs and groups of all sorts and types around Melbourne/ Vic/ Tas/ SA/Can etc.

From "old school" clubs to "here today, gone tomorrow" FB groups, ADVrider groups, Monarchs, Melb M'cycle Touring Club, Ulyssees with all its Special Interest/ ADV-groups, Dealer-rides, brand-distributor/importer rides and test-days, NetRider is VERY slowly picking up the ride+travel game, Tassie's EastCoasters and tucked-away local ADVrider subgroups, Adelaide's roadies, SA- ADV/ Green Triangle riders, The OpenRoaders with their ADV sub-group....it's absolutely endless.
Many feature a very strong and active Strom-community as well (no surprise, aye?)

All sorts of age-groups, bases, flavours, leanings...take your pick.
None of them feature here as they're more southern based and rather operate locally, you'll have to tap into the local Vic/ Southern scene for the contacts and hook-ups.
Plenty of friends and contacts, rides, trips and laughs (and ENORMOUS resources) to be had!!


See ya on the tracks
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Good advice from Glitch_Oz I reckon. Social media should put you in touch with like minded people and maybe you can do the trip with more than one group i.e. one there and one back.

Some days it is just so annoying having too many people waving to you

If you can postpone your trip until June/July the weather will be a lot more comfortable.

As MrAnonymous has said, bike preparation and some "test runs" can do you no harm at all.

I consider a weekend run to Woomera and back would be good preparation for your trip.

Don't be put off by comments by myself and others. Go for it but be aware that roadside assistance may mean "we'll be there soon, probably tomorrow" so carry food and lots of water.
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Also something that most don't think about is a spare set of fuses.
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Add in a radiator guard. 12V air pump and repair plug kit.
Radiator guard, a DYI project. Proud of it
Here is where I started from: http://i.imgur.com/WVkofi9.jpg
Tat's the final result: http://i.imgur.com/tszxXZF.jpg

12V air pump check, repair kit, check

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In Coober Pedy, don't miss the opportunity to experience underground camping.

Riba's Underground Camping
Didn't know about it, thank you !

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As for the rest of your adventure

March/April daytime temperatures are still quite high. If you are travelling from Melbourne and not used to the heat you are in for a surprise!

Very risky to start your morning ride before 8:00 am due to wildlife on roads (kangaroo, dingo, emu. buffalo) and finish no later than 5:00pm. Don't forget to factor in time to look around so travel Erldunda to Uluru, a day at Uluru and the next day back that is 3 days total. A further refinement is back via King's Canyon, add an extra day.

Your 10 day trip is looking a little short to me.

If you are not used to the heat I suggest 300-400Km per day max.

Overnight camp at Erldunda roadhouse.

Accommodation at Ayers Rock really expensive, suggest Yulara or Petermann
Good point with the night time and everything. I was planning to do about 600 - 700 km/day initially. I have to revise this I think. Didn't count the night time.

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Finally, I wouldn't consider travelling alone. My ideal (minimal) solution is 3 bikes/1 utility (or car and trailer). Each day one rider puts his bike in the ute and drives it [the ute] so you get to ride your bike 2 out of 3 days.

Not trying to put you off but a breakdown/mishap in central Australia is a little different to in a suburban environment.
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Seriously, 3 bikes and a car with a trailer?????????
Where's the fun in that?

Personally, I love traveling by my self or with one other like minded person.
My thoughts exactly. I'd rather travel alone or with someone like minded. Having a car behind us, for me, just doesn't make sense unless going off the beaten track and even then ...

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If you're sticking to the blacktop Julles, there not much that can go wrong as long as your bike is well prepared pre trip and you ride sensibly.
Good tyre's, chain, freshly serviced engine and luggage well secured.
When fitting out a new bike for travel, I do a couple of overnighter's first up that will show up any weak link's, it will also help your proprieties of what is needed.
Must have a tyre plug and repair kit and know how to use it. along with a mini compressor.
Satellite phone wouldn't hurt either, Spot Tracker if you plan on leaving the beaten track. (minimum 2 people if you plan on going off road)
Only other thing, work out your route and confirm that you can purchase fuel, carry extra if required along with at least 5-10 litres of water.
Lastly, remember the 6 P's
Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Good point with the weak links. Will definetely consider that. See how my other half + 2 kids feel about it )

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Time to get some?
Loads and loads of clubs and groups of all sorts and types around Melbourne/ Vic/ Tas/ SA/Can etc.

From "old school" clubs to "here today, gone tomorrow" FB groups, ADVrider groups, Monarchs, Melb M'cycle Touring Club, Ulyssees with all its Special Interest/ ADV-groups, Dealer-rides, brand-distributor/importer rides and test-days, NetRider is VERY slowly picking up the ride+travel game, Tassie's EastCoasters and tucked-away local ADVrider subgroups, Adelaide's roadies, SA- ADV/ Green Triangle riders, The OpenRoaders with their ADV sub-group....it's absolutely endless.
Many feature a very strong and active Strom-community as well (no surprise, aye?)

All sorts of age-groups, bases, flavours, leanings...take your pick.
None of them feature here as they're more southern based and rather operate locally, you'll have to tap into the local Vic/ Southern scene for the contacts and hook-ups.
Plenty of friends and contacts, rides, trips and laughs (and ENORMOUS resources) to be had!!


See ya on the tracks
I know there are plenty of groups out there. Unfortunately I have to divide my time between work, wife, 2 kids and personal time. I work in shifts and I don't get to see much of the family during the day unfortunately and I like to spend time with them as much as I can.

Also, I found the Netrider forum members very aggressive and I don't feel comfortable there. This is why I am an active member of this forum and ADVrider. Love you guys !

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Good thinking Brett

Not trying to sound ridiculous or to put you off, Julles but ...........

Maybe not a bad idea to have a spare set of tyres (in the ute). The nearest motorcycle spares are probably in Alice Springs around 450Kms away from Uluru.

What I am suggesting is that there are a number of risks travelling alone on a bike, accident, illness and breakdown and a little planning for such eventualities is not unreasonable.

I did a trip some years ago and on the return from Darwin I was getting a little nervous regarding my back tyre.
I stopped in Mt Isa which has 2 motorcycle shops but neither had the size available. This was on Thursday and both shops offered to have a tyre available by the following Tuesday.
The next day I arranged to have a tyre freighted from Townsville to Cloncurry. I rode to Cloncurry the following morning and fitted it myself.
Thank you for sharing the experience. (Un)Fortunately, biking is a risky business in itself. Going on trips just complements that risk and ads that sense of adventure and joy to the riding. As long as you come back alive and well ))

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Also something that most don't think about is a spare set of fuses.
Got me on this one ! thx !
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How's this for a compromise.

Have the missus and kids drive in the family car with trailer on back with all the camping gear.

Put all of your extras, including camping gear in the trailer to allow you to enjoy an un-laden ride.

Enjoy your daily riding pretty much on your own if you wish meeting up with the family for lunch and camping overnight together.

A tent site in a caravan park will cost no more than if you was on your own.

Travelling north as far as Coober Pedy you will experience all the "thrills" of the outback.

I think Ayers Rock is "just a rock" and best viewed on a DVD at home.

If I had to choose between Ayers Rock and the Barossa Valley region it wouldn't be a difficult decision. Beautiful roads, an absolute pleasure on a bike and a lot cooler than further north.

P.S. Include Woomera in your travel itinerary. Not a lot to see but worth visiting once.

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