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post #11 of 23 Old 05-11-2015, 10:21 AM
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Hello Mr Grey Wolf,

Whilst We understand your intentions, we here downunder do some things a bit differently, we have different stores, many of the Stromtrooper members here actually know each other personally as the majority of the regular posters go to our annual Gatherings and socialize with each other as most of us reside on the Eastern Side of the Country.
We have members from the other Western and Southern States but not real active on the forum.

Australian V-Stroms as far as I'm aware, on compliance must meet with Australian design rules and as I found out a couple of years ago, when fitting some luggage racks, there are differences with the mounting points on Australian models and American models of the same vintage.

For example: I had to fit racks for my Wolfman soft pannier bags, the American racks won't fit our stroms coz of different mounting points so theres an Australian company who makes these racks for the Australian distributor as well as making Barret exhaust systems for motorcycles.

So there are some things that need to be kept local but mainstream mechanicals could go over to the main forum. I think you'll find that the Aus/ NZ regional forum is the most liveliest forum area outside the US/ Can region and have groups that ride and socialise together often.

Anyway...this is how I see it....thanks for your time

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Places to buy items are local issues including looking for overseas supplies from the perspective of ANZ buyers. Local forums are for those issues. Questions on where to get an item are fine here.

The luggage rack thing seems to cause some confusion. It could be because Suzuki replaced the stock luggage rack with a different system on older models they sold with luggage. It could also be the model change in 2012 may cause confusion. The mounting points are different on L1 and earlier models from L2 and later models. Bike registration in the UK and Australia doesn't seem to clearly indicate model year. I've seen L1 and L2 owners report owning a model year different from the 2011 and 2012 model years L1 and L2 represent respectively.

There are some differences between Australian E-24 models and the other models around the world but those involve electrical and emissions related items. I've not heard of anything as basic as the frame being different between countries and I think it would be too big an issue to have slipped by our attention.

Anyhow, this isn't a rule. It's a request to check if a question will be applicable world wide before posting it here. There is a worldwide audience that can benefit from such knowledge.

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The Australian Design Rules applying to motorcycles do not mandate the same emission requirements applicable to European or US models . While most will carry similar control systems regardless, sometimes....they don't, and our laws don't necessarily mandate they need to be in place. Obviously has affect on aftermarket parts, tuning and tweaking performance. To me having a local sub-forum group is very important for this stuff and to help sort the wheat from the chaff when it comes to working out the slight variations.
That's what I found so brilliant with the Suzuki Bandits Australia (and NZ) forum. The American version of the similar bike forum (in the case of the Suzuki Bandit) is Two Wheeled Texans which we in Aust would also occasionally contribute to and draw from as well but it held little relevance to me as an Aussie Bandit owner and rider even tho the Bandit is one of Suzukis longest running model range. With this Stromtrooper Forum, I'm simply a member of an international forum and I appreciate that, but Aust has enough variation in more ways than one to justify either a dedicated sub-group or....dare I say it...- a seperate group altogether.

I guess living in Northern Aust where there is relatively little support for these bikes other than a recalcitrant dealer, and having (currently) the only Registered V2 (1000A) in the Northern Territory..I tend to rely on local (Aust) experience of other Strommers. Seems that's now going to be harder to seek out, and to me that's a shame.
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Guys... GW has just reiterated that it is NOT a rule.

The Aus/NZ regional section will stay, we won't all be dumped in the morass of one international forum (and I'm sure the Yanks and rest don't want that either).

He has just asked us all to be a little more thoughtful before we hit the submit button.

This sort of topic has come both here and on ADVrider in the past regarding ride reports.

Some here have taken to posting RR's here and on the main forum page, and it seems to work judging by the jealous comments made in response to some of the reports. :mrgreen:

This is a fantastic forum that needs almost no tweaking, let's not get stressed by GW's suggestion, just keep it in mind is all we need to do.

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I am guilty also and will probably stay that way, no offence to anyone else but my limited typing and internet skills make it that at least on the OZ/ NZ site my kiwi language can be understood
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So it would seem there is concensus that this is the right place to post oour threads...so stop bloody moving them....
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I am guilty also and will probably stay that way, no offence to anyone else but my limited typing and internet skills make it that at least on the OZ/ NZ site my kiwi language can be understood
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So it would seem there is concensus that this is the right place to post oour threads...so stop bloody moving them....
Perhaps the opposite response is more appropriate. Those who don't want to follow the guidelines of this forum which existed well before they arrived and agreed to the polices of when they joined are free to leave and start their own site.
I support the forum policy here 100% and I have for several years felt that the Aust/NZ sub section of the forum has not been representative of the forum as a whole and is particularly insular and narrow minded when it comes to generic questions about V-Stroms. The reality is that there are no appreciable differences in V-Stroms world wide in regards to things like suspension, rack fittings, tuning, accessories, general maintenance or electrics so there is no reason for those sort of posts to be locked up in a geographic sub section when in many cases they have already been discussed and solutions offered in sections that are more relevant.
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Although I have recently sold my Strom. I still enjoy the forum for all it has offered me ( and everyone else) over a good number of years. I have noticed, particularly in this year, posts that have in the past been appropriately posted in the main forum are now showing up here in the Australian section.
The rules have been set years ago for very good reasons and has been extremely successful over the years as shown by the forums popularity.
The polite post by Grey Wolf was no more than a request to be sure posts are placed in the appropriate section, simple as that, nothing more.
Moderators task in keeping the forum in shape as set out many years ago, is often overlooked and sometimes a thankless task. I see our Mod p38arover has had to move incorrectly posted posts more and more particularly this last year.
It's time to give the Mods a hand, remembering the rules are set for all even if you sometimes may not agree.
The request by Grey Wolf is no great ask and it's no cross to bear looking to the main forum for info that is relevant to all and everything else of specific local interest post it in the Australian section.
Pretty easy and simple thing to do.

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Although I have recently sold my Strom. I still enjoy the forum for all it has offered me ( and everyone else) over a good number of years. I have noticed, particularly in this year, posts that have in the past been appropriately posted in the main forum are now showing up here in the Australian section.
The rules have been set years ago for very good reasons and has been extremely successful over the years as shown by the forums popularity.
The polite post by Grey Wolf was no more than a request to be sure posts are placed in the appropriate section, simple as that, nothing more.
Moderators task in keeping the forum in shape as set out many years ago, is often overlooked and sometimes a thankless task. I see our Mod p38arover has had to move incorrectly posted posts more and more particularly this last year.
It's time to give the Mods a hand, remembering the rules are set for all even if you sometimes may not agree.
The request by Grey Wolf is no great ask and it's no cross to bear looking to the main forum for info that is relevant to all and everything else of specific local interest post it in the Australian section.
Pretty easy and simple thing to do.

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Good points.
I guess it's good to have the discussion and flesh out the various points of view, and given the various points made here and in particular,... the matters clarifying the origins and intent of the region specific sections.

Being now better informed, I'm happy to go with the flow and be more mindful of considering where to post. As I said earlier, I'm guilty of getting it wrong.

I agree, being a moderator of these forums must be like trying to herd wet cats.
In that regard, well done moderators.
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