Just out of interest for those that care about stuff like this;


Wikipedia says 30 lbs more for DL1000 (520 lbs) vs original DL650 (490 lbs. Some would say that 520/490 means the DL1000 weighs 6% more, but really the real world weight difference is:

(520+200 lb rider+gear)/ (490+200 lb rider and gear)


or

720/690 or about 4% more.

Horsepower is often mentioned at 98 for the DL1000 and 62 for the Original DL650.

If we looked at weight to power ratios (with the rider above) then we get

DL1000: 720/98= 7.35 lbs per horsepower
DL650 690/62 = 11.13 lbs per horsepower

The DL1000 has about 50% more horsepower per lb.

I would tend to agree the the weight difference doesn't amount to a "lot of pork"; especially when you look at the difference in horsepower and the power to weight ratio.

(For those of us that weigh more than 200 lbs with gear this difference is larger, and benefits the DL1000 even more. I'm sure that my weight plus gear plus the crap that is in my topcase and added to my bikes would add another 100lbs to the above.)

Here is another interesting nerdy line of thought. For the sake of discussion lets ignore frictional drag (tires, wheels bearings, etc. These tend to be linear so aren't as big a factor at speed.) Lets also assume that both bikes have perfect gearing for the speeds mentioned which of course isn't true but surprisingly this line of thought seems to work out anyway.

Let's say it took 20 hp for a V-Strom to hold 60 mph (the size of the bikes and frontal area is essential the same so this should be the same for both bikes.)

At 75 mph it would take 1.56 times more power to hold the speed. That means about 31 hp is needed. A DL650 would have about 31 hp in reserve, a DL1000 would have about 67 hp in reserve or roughly DOUBLE the power available for passing.

110 mph would require about 67 hp. The DL650 wouldn't get there (which seems close to reality) The DL1000 would keep accelerating. at 130 mph it would need about 94 hp so would be pretty much tapped out.

..Tom

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Moderators please remove the quoted post and ban the member that posted this immediately. We will not have facts get into the way of a good wee bashing vee thread. We will not put up with this line of unquestionable truth. We will merely ask for the allowance of flooding out of the facts through misinformation by wee owners whom have never even rode the vee.

Thanks for cooperation!


Sent from my Motorcycle iPhone app, while drinking a latte, eating a burger, driving through a school zone 20 mph over the speed limit with my feet on the wheel!

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1986 XR600R,1986 VF1000R,1999 CBR1100XX,2006 CRF450X,2007 DL1000 V-Strom

Don't worry.... I'm sure most here won't bother reading that anyway, and if they did they wouldn't believe it anyway.

..Tom

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Why Cars don't see bikes (SMIDSY)
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sounds reasonable to me.
But i have owned both, and still prefer the wee...
To each his own,ride what ya like...

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DL650K5 on a Wee again!
2000 Honda Cbr929 Fireblade
DL1000K4(Sold!)
DL650K7 (SOLD! to PXX!)

I went with the Wee.
2005 DL650 no farkles. The day after I got her.

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2005 Suzuki Wee-Strom
1992 Kawasaki KZ1000P (Sold)
1992 Suzuki Katana 600 (Sold)

And two weeks later.

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2005 Suzuki Wee-Strom
1992 Kawasaki KZ1000P (Sold)
1992 Suzuki Katana 600 (Sold)

Tom, that is exactly why I bought a Vee. But the wee is a great bike also. This poll is currently pretty scewed right now as last I heard its about 5 to 1 wee over Vee.

To each his own. I ride everything.

It is comical to me to see wee owners wish for an 800 but shy away from a 1000 that is exactly the same chasis as what they own. I want a 1200.

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2007 Blue SuperVee 1000
2002 White HD Road King Police
2000 Red Honda XR 400r
2003 Green Honda Rincon 650 ATV

If it is not broken, it can still be fixed

you still aint gots no tag on that rear fender, paper, plastic nor metal...

GREAT START!

& for all those 1K fans, i gots me a 6fiddy & a tree fiddy, don't dat make 1K?

shiny side up

sw

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steve
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'05 WEE (LRW)
'99 DR TREE FIDDY SEX
plus several BRAND X

I've got a Plate Registration paper folded up in my Jacket pocket, good through Jan '13.

I ordered Marine Corps plates and the lady at the DMV said to keep the paper on my person til I get the plates in the mail, as people will steal it in a heartbeat.

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2005 Suzuki Wee-Strom
1992 Kawasaki KZ1000P (Sold)
1992 Suzuki Katana 600 (Sold)

Congrats on the bike you will love it. I have had my 2011 Wee for two years and everytime I think about selling her for that "better" bike I think of everything I would need to give up and realize when I am on the road the bike is alot of fun. It still is the perfect bike. HOWEVER, I think I will need to go to some Wee meetings because I keep buying farkles and wanting to keep doing more.

Hi, my name is Lance and I have a Wee addiction

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Farkles: Aprilia Tuono mirrors / Pat Walsh Design Super Brace / DL1000 Seat / Givi engine guards / Madstad Bkt w/ OEM or Givi Shield / PL532 & E41nn / EB PC-8 - 2x power outlets - Datel Voltmeter - Stebel Horn with PWD setup - Digital Slim H4-3(9003) Bi-Xenon HID - 1157 LED Brake lights

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