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Old 08-31-2012, 10:48 AM
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I assume you mean to shrink the size of the rebound hole in the damper rod to 1.5mm, yes?
late reply, as i did not read this thread for a while - weld shut the rebound hole and drill a 1.5mm next to it.

DSlag,

I am no suspension expert, but playing K8 has allow me to learn so much that i never did with all the sports bike i had before. After a while and you figure out what each little adjustment does to the bike over the same familiar road you ride. If you have curiosity and attention to detail, dont let anyone tell u that you wouldnt know the difference with all the tinkering

Pete,
Obviously i arrive at a slightly different conclusion you have - so let's call it a draw! hahaha Yours was an extremely well tuned emulator set-up and not a drop-in stock setup - Steve told me he did a few mods to the emulator u use

- The biggest achilles heel intiminator had was its ineffective (ie bouncy) dealings with tiny road imperfection compared to the emulator - i always thought that was the price to pay for lack of brake dive capability. the 1mm bypass hole on top solved eliminated the issue.
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Where is the rebound hole? Any photo or drawing?

Can the damping rod be removed for this work without upsetting the seal?
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Where is the rebound hole? Any photo or drawing?

Can the damping rod be removed for this work without upsetting the seal?
The rebound hole is near the top of the damper rod. I don't recall if you can get the damper rod out without disturbing the seal or not. I don't think so.

I've blotted out a lot of what it took to get reasonable performance out of the RaceTechs and then when I decided to try the Intiminators, they just drop in and gave me near identical performance to what I had after a year of futzing with the Racetech springs, fork springs, extra holes in the emulators, 4 different oil weights, etc.

I have yet to do the AceRider mods to my 2012 for the Intiminators. They're in the bike, but everything else is oem. Later this fall, I'll dig into it.

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Just installed Intiminators in the Wee2
A painless exercise,exept for the 2 captive nuts in the mudguard,what a PITA

I carefully drained and measured the oil from the forks ---612cc per leg.
Installed the Intiminators and added oil to the 150mm down level= 483cc per leg. -15mm spacers were made from SS vacume cleaner handle tube and all back together easy peasy.
Tomorrow is test day to see if sag,springs or futher mods need doing.
Thanks to Ace and others for the advice.
Anyone have torque specs for the fork and brake bolts ?
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Where is the rebound hole? Any photo or drawing?

Can the damping rod be removed for this work without upsetting the seal?
Seals are not disturbed - stanchion never leaves the fork lowers.

once damper rod left the forks - keep the forks as vertical as possible - it helps when reassembly as "oil-lock" piece (at least in the pre L2) can "bounce" around. Before dropping the damper rod back into the fork lower vertically, ensure u can see right through from the top, otherwise shake slightly to ensure the oil lock piece sits properly.

Maccaoz,

on pre L2, and i cant see them being different, fork bolts are3 23Nm, and brake caliper bolts are 39Nm
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First test ride with the Intiminators.
Brisbane-Lions Rd-Woodenbong-Bris.With the Mrs(50kg)on the back.
Intimenators did good on this ride,last time over the same route the bad holes/patches were causing a sudden jar right into my arthritic old thumbs.(It bloody hurts)This trip,not a oneand the bike feeling more stable in the bends as well.
I'm yet to decide if the small bump absorption is better,worse or the same,a few solo runs over Mt.Glorious and I should have a better idea,plus a feel for any changes in the cornering ability.
The problem with "Arthur" and small bumps is its all depends on his mood for the day.More test over a longer period and I will know.
So far all good and well worth the $
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Silky.

I did the mods. I drilled the axial bypass port in the Intiminator spindle with a #60 drill. I opened up the ports under the brass inertia valve. I didn't drill more ports for the compression oil to reach the shims. For my shim stack I have two 0.012" shims and three tens. I may stiffen that...we'll wait and see.

I re-drilled the rebound port in the damper rod with a 1/16" bit, and drilled out the compression ports with a 3/8" bit. Refilled with 5 wt. fork oil with a 150 mm air gap. Added 0.90 Sonic springs as recommended by Rich Desmond.

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Old 10-26-2012, 12:47 PM
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PTRider,

and the result of all that mod..... how do u feel,... where would u like to see further improvements....
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Ace, thank you for the development work for this mod.

I don't know what I'd change. I like the result very much so far. I made a short ride yesterday in town on the bumpiest pavement I knew, and the tire held to the pavement well while the chassis rode smoothly. I need to do more riding on various conditions. It might be a bit soft, but I'm not a good judge. If I come to the conclusion that it needs more stability, I'll fiddle with the shim stack. Anyway, it is really good.
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I thought I'd throw my experiences with intiminators in the mix. I've had mine in for around 18 months and think they make a significant improvement to the handling, both gravel and tar.
My setup:
K9 Wee, I'm 78kg
5 shims at 0.012 so total of 0.060
Standard springs.
Opened up the original damper ports
1.5mm rebound damper orifice
2.5w Motorex Racing fork oil, 15.2cSt@40degC
Rich's fork brace.
Fully adjustable Elka rear shock

I've also jacked up the back suspension by 25mm and have the top of the fork tubes level with the triple clamp. This was to lift the bike up as I lowered the pegs to accommodate my long legs. I liked the effect this had on handling on tar, maybe not so much on loose gravel.

Today I did the 1mm bypass hole through the top mod as, like AceRider, I've always thought the front end was too harsh initially on smaller bumps. The improvement is instantly noticeable making the bike more comfortable to ride yet retaining the solid front end feel. Thanks for passing that on Arron.
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