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post #1 of 51 Old 08-25-2016, 01:50 PM Thread Starter
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A Skill & a Habit to make you live.....

Note: I wrote this some time ago but recently, something happened that made me want to post it...


I occasionally get asked by younger guys what they can do to maximize their chances of getting to be an older rider. There is some factor of luck just as there is in anyone’s life but there are two things that YOU can do as a rider that will hugely impact the probability that all other factors being equal, you will survive to be an older rider! One is a skill the other a habit!


My answer is always the same for the first….BRAKING! I believe, and this isn’t up for discussion since it really is my honest opinion, that learning how to brake is thee single most important skill to learn as a rider! Experience be damned, most riders regardless of experience aren’t very good at it! Think about it, it is the only riding skill which can absolutely save your life. We can all twist our wrists and while learning to corner at progressively higher and higher speeds has its fun factor, it won’t often save your life.


The only other skill which has actually saved me from disaster was my ability to steer my bike using the rear wheel…..the oft quoted “steer with the rear” but it wasn’t a skill I learned in the first year of my riding career nor was it a skill that I learned while riding on the street. There is however a HABIT I use though and I’ll get to that in a minute.


BRAKING:
Many of us older guys have seen many accidents where the riders lack of skill was evidenced by that single black stripe on the road that led into the woods, into the concrete abutment, into the guard rail, the truck……you get the idea. They froze, locked it up, maybe fell over, maybe not and paid the price. Whenever I see that testament, I just hope the price wasn’t the ultimate price for the guy or gal. Believe it or not many riders even today still do not use their front brakes! Myself, I rarely use my rear brake unless the road conditions warrant it. It makes perfect sense to get comfortable with the front brake since it does something like 70% of the total braking anyway…may as well get really good at using it!


I used to road race many, many years ago. It was nothing much, just a couple years of club racing with a buddy and believe me, I’m not trying to pretend that I was some “Racer X”…because I wasn’t but I did learn a lot of things from riders much better than me and one of those skill was how to brake.


I’ve developed the perfect question when someone tells me that they know how to brake well. I’ll ask them “Does the idea of practicing a panic stop on an empty highway from 70 mph, in the rain frighten you?”

The look on their face when you ask them this question will tell you the truth regardless of what words flow out of their mouths.


That’s right, if practicing a panic stop in the worst type of weather scares you then get to practicing before it becomes a reality that you don’t want to be present for. Now before anyone logs off deciding to wait for a rain storm I should probably add that we all need to start small…..and start SAFE!

Don’t “practice” on a public road, go to an empty paved lot. Start with a friend if you need to but go at a comfortable speed for YOU. It might be 20mph stops in that empty parking lot, then evaluate how you did with actual markings. They can be a piece of a stick thrown down to mark your first “stop point” or a friend making a small dot on the pavement. Point is, make it real by making real world marks or locations. Myself, I drop nickels or quarters. They are bright and shiny and if I’m quick, I can drop & step on them before they roll away. You can use whatever you want but just don’t let it be something large enough to upset your braking!

Once I’m done, since I dropped them all off my right side, they are all in a straight line so I just hop off and go pick them all up. Go to that lot when it’s raining lightly so the pavement is wet but not flooded to the point where hydroplaning begins. Also keep in mind that your 750-900 lbs of bike & rider will hydroplane at a lower speed than that 12,000 lb tractor trailer that just passed you on Rt 95. Don’t be stupid, but GET BETTER!


Once you’ve committed to getting really good at stopping your bike quickly, increase the speeds, introduce other factors and surfaces. You will be amazed at even with twenty minutes of casual practice, how many feet are between that last marker and the first one you put down.
With practice you will be able to feel the rear wheel lockup and gently release it, all without any danger or fear. Same with the front brake. If you use a modern bike, you may even get the point where the rear becomes unweighted and you are able to lift the rear wheel but be forewarned, that may “look cool” but it actually increases the distance to stop.

For the shortest distance, and that is the goal, keep your weight behind the front wheel, low as you can get it and both wheels generating deceleration. Get to know the feel of both of your brakes so intimately that you’ll be able to anticipate the lockup points and remain just under them even as the surface beneath your tires changes. Learning how to brake on a sand blown parking lot is surely better than being forced into a crash course around the next bend when you encounter sand over the road on a weekend ride.


The only thing I do not suggest is practicing on ice or snow…..because you really have so little control that I cannot recommend that anyone try it because I don’t want anyone to get hurt! I’ll issue one other little warning here…..if you find yourself with a locked rear brake and the rear wheel is beginning to be a front wheel, throttle and very deft brake control will probably be the only things that will keep you upright and if that “perfect” question cased you some angst, then do not getting into this position!


I can guarantee each and every one of you that began reading this and thought to yourself “yeah, I can stop my bike as fast as he can” two things.

No, you probably can’t…..but if you practice, you WILL GET BETTER! Guaranteed!


I think most reading this would acknowledge that they would get better….it’s just common sense(and proven science)…we all get better at things that we practice, right? Of course we do…then what exactly are you waiting for?


Wouldn’t it be nice if we all got a text message that read something like:
“Tomorrow after work, you are going to go for a ride. On a busy two lane road with 40mph bumper-to-bumper traffic 2.7 miles from your house the SUV in front of you is going to make an unannounced hard right turn leaving you face to face with the back end of the mail delivery truck taking up the entire lane….”


NO, we don’t get those text messages warning us of impending doom do we? Would be nice but it ain’t happening folks. We need to be prepared…and being able to safely stop in time with 18 inches to spare beats the hell out of smacking into the side of that truck or that car or that tree because the rate of deceleration that YOU were able to generate left you 6 feet into that truck….BTW- that 6 feet from 40mph will probably be the distance between your first and last makers on the first time you go practice….6 feet!


A guy I knew from another forum I belong to died less than 6 weeks ago (7/16)….because he couldn’t stop his bike. The bike easily had the ability….but he didn’t and he’s dead. He probably thought that he would practice “later”…… OK, enough said….please go practice.


The Weave-it’s not just a hairpiece

The second is a HABIT that I’m positive has saved me from disaster countless times is “The WEAVE”. That is the habit of weaving side to side in my lane when EVER I see that a car is either preparing to turn left in front of me or is entering the road FROM EITHER SIDE! I cannot emphasize the importance of this enough….to me, it is as important a riding tool as my braking ability! The principle here is what’s been called “The Dragonfly effect”….by weaving I am breaking up the plane of view for the driver against the background that HE sees because I’m smart enough to know that his brain has been programmed since he or her very first day of driving school, to look for a car. THEY AREN’T EVEN LOOKING FOR A BIKE!


Because of that, they will see right through you….even though you would swear that they made direct eye contact! This friends, isn’t conjecture or some conspiracy theory that Jeff thought up while in some paranoid state, it too is science (read the Hurt report published 1981). This report found over and over and over again where the driver who caused the accident tells the police that they never even saw the rider or bike….while the rider in question (same accident) tells the police that he swears the driver made direct eye contact!

How scary is that folks? All those times that you made eye contact and felt comfortable because of it….to now find out that many times, the guy didn’t really make that connection with you at all! They even came up with an acronym for it- SMIDESY (sorry mister, I didn’t even see you) it’s right there in the report. WEAVE, it WILL save your life. As my own proof, I ride year round. Yes, it does actually get cold here in MD but as long as there is no apparent ice or snow, I ride in the winter because I enjoy it. I even enjoy riding in the rain (tip- always pack your rain suit last so it’s on top). Since I began “weaving” many years ago now….I have NEVER had a car cut me off by turning in front of me or pulling out in front of me, EVER! Not even once….how cool is that?


I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen them begin to pull out then see the weave and stop dead in their tracks but never in my path. Is it just plain luck, could be I suppose but I’ve “read” the recognition on too many faces to simply chalk it up to luck….it makes a big difference. Did I feel kind of goofy weaving all over the road at first, yup I won’t deny that at first I did…not anymore though and what’s really interesting is that I’ve noticed more and more riders around where I live now weaving! Oh, in case you are wondering, I’ve never been pulled over by the cops for weaving. It appears that either they understand what I’m doing or when they see that’s its only when cars are pulling into traffic that I do weave, they must figure it out but I’ve never been stopped for it.

Stay safe and enjoy!


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I thought I was the only one who weaved! Thanks for the inspiration... I'll be heading to the parking lot to work more on my braking.
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As to the weave, my rule is that if I can't perceive their vehicle moving againt the background of whatever's behind them, they can't perceive me as moving against the background of whatever's behind me.

OK, that's not my rule. I got it from one of the Smidsy threads, but the logic is easy to follow. Probably best just to get in the habit of the weave when approaching any vehicle that might turn in front of you, so you do it automatically.

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Good post Jeff but your avatar was distracting me!

Don't make her weave back and forth though, that will just make it worse!
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Sooo many riders have no clue how to brake properly, much less practiced it enough to make it a reflex.
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Good write up Jeff!

One part of the braking thing has changed (I think) since you wrote the original.. that is that new bikes pretty much all come with ABS brakes. There really is no reason not to be able to do full braking in almost any situation (ice and snow don't count!) You simply don't have to worry about the front locking up and the bike falling over so go ahead and do it!

You probably know I am a big proponent of the SMIDSY weave. (I think most would leave out the "E".) I have a classical SMIDSY situation start up the other day.. left turn ready to go in front of me, he started to move out (you know where you move out to double check and then go!) and the moment my wave started he hammered the brakes. I wish I had my GOPRO on recording it. It pretty much exactly mirrored a situation several years ago. I was following a friend (who was riding a Bandit.) He had his modulator running. The car pulled out a bit, started to go, he looked right at the bikes and then stepped on the gas. Half way out on the road he freaked and then braked. Fortunately my Bandit friend was able to avoid the crash but it was close.

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Great post (or...re-post as it were)!

Although I have not been motorcycling very long yet, I've been fortunate enough to have a strong background in mountain biking (and mt. bike racing). I frequently used aggressive braking and showed no hesitation to grab a fist full of front brake. Even had a few "panic stops" on some mountain sides in WV. Those braking skills have served me well now that I am motorcycling. I should still practice more than I do, but aggressive braking has already saved me and my wife from an erroneous "Left-Turner" a few weeks ago.

I will have to start the habit of the "Weave"...sounds like a good habit to get into. I do something similar now. When I am setting at a red light, and someone is coming up behind me, it kind of tilt my bike side-to-side (shifting weight from one leg to the other, then back again). This gets the brake lights in my side cases oscillating up and down and helps create some "visibility". I got the idea from hunting...setting still will help you blend in (even without camo), while moving around will make you stand out (even with the best camo).
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Thanks, Jeff.

I've been using the weave a lot in the past year.

I'll also do a weave when coming to a stop in pressed traffic. It gets the attention of the driver behind me and they usually seem to give a little more room rather than pulling right up on me.

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G'day Jeff, I like your thread.

I too, do the weave in an attempt to make myself visible to other road users who I deem could have trouble distinguishing my silhouette against the visual clutter or background that is around at the time.

Be seen, be safe(r)

There is a lot of visual information to take in as modern road users and every little bit we can do to make ourselves stand out is a good thing.

The onus is on us to do the thinking for other road users, seeing as we are the vulnerable ones.....no cage, belts or airbags.

One thing I also do whilst stopped at lights or stop signs is pump my brakes on and off, in an attempt to catch the attention of approaching vehicles from the rear.

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I was really happy this morning when I saw that this post had been viewed over two hundred times already. And you guys bring up a lot of very good points, the best to me being what do we do when stopped at the light with the car or truck approaching from the rear?

Hunt and ID bring up good methods...I've always flashed my brake light several times but ANYTHING is better than just sitting there hoping to not get rear-ended!

Tom brings up the fact that a lot of bikes today come with ABS and it's very true. I have something like 13 or 14 bikes with 7 or 8 bikes tagged insured and on the road,all but my Vee are vintage bikes and none have ABS nor do many of the guys on our forum. I have a friend with a ABS equipped Harley Sportster. It's a heavier bike but I outweigh him by 40 pounds so it was fairly close total weight-wise. He challenged me to a stopping contest so he could show off his ABS. We went up to the school lot on a Saturday or Sunday a year or so ago and we marked out where we would begin to apply the brakes. Then we circled back around to the appointed starting position. We may have got up to 50mph when we both began to stop. Well long story short, we did it maybe a half dozen tries and he won, none of them. I always managed to stop shorter than he did, each and every time with one of them being by 7 or 8 feet! I did notice that on that occasion though, I was watching his right hand and I KNOW that I hit my front brake before he did but it didn't explain all the other "losses". We surmised that the ABS program uses an algorithm that isn't always perfect for the conditions BUT has to work under any conditions, I was also competing against someone who never practiced braking, ever....he freely admitted it which means that his ABS did a stellar job in stopping his bike nearly as fast as someone who practices all the time! Our contest also ignored what might happen on a wet or gravel surface, he very well may have beat me by a wide margin and I think that for the vast majority of riders, ABS saves lives. To me, after what I saw, I absolutely believe that because those few extra pounds were able to make Rick ride or I should say brake, at a level far beyond what he would have been able to do without it so that makes it a lifesaver. For the rest of us though, we need to practice!

Tom also brings up the very dangerous situation where the driver realizes what they've done, unfortunately he realizes this halfway thru the maneuver and ends up stopped right in front of us! I don't claim to "know" what to do in that situation because I believe it's a judgement call we would have to make at the time of which way to go---in front of towards his rear but having the ability to brake at the bikes max is definitely going to increase your chances of avoiding anything hard!

Note: I haven't been on our forum here in a long time but I did some "catch-up" yesterday and saw that you stopped riding a couple years ago Pat but I'm very happy to see you as a mod here and still helping so many guys out! You were here when I joined and I know that I speak for a lot of guys when I thank you for all you do! I'd also good to see you still active here Vtom, you were here when I joined too!!

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