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Riding Proficiency Tips and suggestions for improving the rider's safety skills and riding techniques

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post #11 of 51 Old 08-26-2016, 09:04 AM
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This can help preventing from cars pulling out in front of you (SMIDSY)
SMIDSY detailed report.
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I don't weave but also hyper aware of positioning and traffic behind me.
I make it a practice to have some day light ahead of me - stopping so I would not get pinned ...which ever part of the lane the car ahead has left some space so even if hit I would be pushed past the vehicle ahead of me.

Also rarely in neutral so if I need a quick out it's there and never in the left turn lane with the bike angled across traffic ....keep it straight so you would not be pushed into oncoming traffic if hit from behind.

It is my greatestest concern ...being rear ended and only positioning can give you some amelioration of serious injury risk. Keep a close eye on those mirrors....too often the driver behind you is looking at the vehicle in front of you ....brake light flashing even with gearing down a good practice.
Off pavement riders - give that brake light a polish.


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ABS doesn't replace braking practice and skills. It does keep riders who haven't practiced from locking the rear and swapping ends which is all too easy, or locking the front and going right done, which is hard to do on clean dry pavement. It also makes practicing safer. With or without ABS, the shortest braking action is to threshold brake, keeping maximum pressure on short of lockup or ABS activation. ABS can be very helpful in learning to brake because it makes practicing safer. Practicing from about 20mph is fine because it trains the reflexes that are required regardless of speed and is safer and less wearing on pads and tires.

Weight transfers to the front on braking so progressively stronger front braking and progressively weaker rear braking during the weight transfer period is required for maximum effort but it happens very fast. Many would do better to just apply some rear brake and focus on getting on the front harder after an instant of front end dive.

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You probably know I am a big proponent of the SMIDSY weave. (I think most would leave out the "E".)
Wassat, just wiggle the bars when approaching a turning cage?
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for me it is all about risk management, and that is what I preach.

Accident usually does not happen due to single cause, it is a combination of factors (weather conditions, route choice, time of the day, rider condition, speed, etc) so while you can't control some of the factors, others are in your control.

What people don't realize that even if your skills get x2 better, there are laws of physics, so when you go x2 faster you still in higher risk.

Yes habits are very important definitely the right ones, the ones which increase your survival chances.

Here is a write-up on ERC MSF class: Experienced Rider Course: Considering risk in the activity of motorcycling ? Selil
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...I've always flashed my brake light several times but ANYTHING is better than just sitting there hoping to not get rear-ended!...
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I also have a modulator for my extra brake lights. They are set up to blink 4 times then burn solid. When I see an approaching vehicle from the rear while I'm stopped, I let go of the brake (just enough to feel the brake light switch click off), then squeeze the brake again. This re-triggers the modulators to give another 4 blinks. I do this while I'm dancing the bike back and forth.



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Wassat, just wiggle the bars when approaching a turning cage?
The detailed report below goes over it in detail but basically if you look at a car and the background isn't moving behind them then you are also not moving in relation to your background. Our brains are tuned to take notice of things that move against the background and we may overlook something that isn't moving across it. This is especially true in a situation where we are taking a quick look. A little bit of sideways motion helps us break out against the background and be more likely to be perceived . (The eyes might see something but if the brain does not perceive it as a threat it might ignore it altogether and not let the driver know something is approaching.)

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This can help preventing from cars pulling out in front of you (SMIDSY)
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The detailed report below goes over it in detail
Ah, seen. The "detailed report" I haven't read yet. Thanks!
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Love the Weave and This!

In addition to weaving I have found another HABIT to be a life saver. Given the SMIDESY theory here is something to consider. When approaching a vehicle that is entering traffic DO NOT look at the driver for an indication of what their intention might be. Look at the front wheel. Entering right or entering left, the wheel never lies. If it is moving you will know what to do. BTW, this is a habit for me regardless of what vehicle I am driving. This is a solid tactic! ~A
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Good post Jeff. I think you should build on that by adding more "stuff".....like......counter-steering. It's another one that must be practiced until it's a natural reflex. Unlike braking it can be practiced on the street under many conditions.

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