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Old 09-19-2006, 03:19 PM
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Default Madstad vs. Laminar Lip vs. MRA Vario

Currently, I have the stock windshield on my WeeStrom. I would like to try and reduce wind buffeting as much as possible at the least possible cost. I'm spefically looking at the Laminar Lip vs Madstad comparison, as they are both close to the same price.

My first choice would be to get the Laminar Lip for my stock screen. Would this reduce wind buffeting as much as the Madstad would with a stock screen?

And if I had to spend > $100, would the Laminar Lip / Madstad combo be a better buy than say the MRA Vario (tall or standard?) screen.

Separate question: In general, how much better is an MRA Vario screen over stock in terms of reducing wind buffeting/noise? Would you buy the tall or standard size? I'm around 6' tall with a "shortish" 30" inseam.

Opinons wanted. Thanks.
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Old 09-19-2006, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Madstad vs. Laminar Lip vs. MRA Vario

Not much insight other than the width of the screen seems like it'd be important. I'm pretty much your exact size and if I block the air coming around the sides of the sheild and off the mirrors I get way less turbulence.

Based on that I decided to forego the laminar lip, but I haven't tested with the lip so I could be totally off.
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Thanks RMRR,

That actually reminded me that the Laminar Lip also comes in a touring version. That version seems to have an edge that goes down the sides of the windshield. I can't tell from the picture, but it looks like it widens the windshield area by extending the lip around the edges. I can't say for sure though, because I haven't seen one up close. But that would be another decision -> standard vs touring (Aargh!)
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Old 10-01-2006, 12:34 PM
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OK, after everything I said, I went out an bought a GIVI Windshield.

First impression is that the quality of the shield seems nice, and it is very clear.

But I do have a few gripes:

Why does it have weatherstriping around the edges? Couldn't they have just polished the edges like the other manufacturers? It looks nice, but I think the Sun will eventually separate this material from the windshield. It is also somewhat distracting while riding (as you see the rubber edge vibrating in the wind), but I'm assuming this is something you will get used to over time.

Instructions say not to leave the shield in the direct sunlight, as it will cause the shield to have a "lens effect" after awhile. I'm assuming this means that if you are looking through the shield, objects will appear closer than they really are? OK, so I'm wondering if GIVI understands that this windshield will be used on a motorcycle. As a result of being mounted to a motorcycle, it WILL often be in the sun.

Another warning sticker stating to only use warm water and a soft rag to clean. So Windex or any other window cleaning solution can't be used? Sheeze!

Riding impressions:

Set on high - Mild buffeting on the back of my helmet at 45mph, but that was the only test I performed before moving the suzuki windshield bracket back to the low setting. The problem I had was that the edge of the shield (rubber strip, and all) went right across my line of site. Too distracting to be safe.

Set on low - I could hear windnoise and felt the wind rushing across the top of my helmet, but it was signifcantly quieter than with the stock shield. Buffeting would occur occasionally, but nothing that would be annoying. This is the setting I will leave the shield at, as it is the only one that will work for me.

Improvements? - Overall this shield is an improvement over the stock screen. I hope it holds up for long hauls as I plan to attend the 125th anniversary of the OK Corral shootout at Tombstone in a few weeks. This will be around 550 to 600mi trip one way. I'm wondering if that Madstad bracket would be worth purchasing prior to going on this trip? Hmmm.
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Default Madstad and the DL650 stock shield

On my DL650 I'm having good results with the stock shield and the Madstad with it set all the way up and all the way forward....introduces a lot of air under the bottom of the screen which maybe is neutralizing the negative pressure behind the shield?
Whaddayathink?.....or maybe I am just easy to please !
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Why does it have weatherstriping around the edges?
Instructions say not to leave the shield in the direct sunlight, as it will cause the shield to have a "lens effect" after awhile.

Another warning sticker stating to only use warm water and a soft rag to clean. So Windex or any other window cleaning solution can't be used?
You have an old stock model. I bought mine last year and it has polished edges with no weather striping.

The sticker that says not to leave the shield in direct sunlight is correct. In the right condition it will melt your dash. I put my helmet bag over mine when I park it in sunlight.

You can't use windex or any other window cleaning solution on any windshield, the givi is no different
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I like the Madstad because it gives you quick flexibility. You can get the windshield almost entirely out of your line of sight if you want.
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I'm currently using a Laminar Touring Lip with some pretty good results. But in order to get them, I had to cant the bottom of the stock screen out by using some rubber plumbing washers as spacers in the bottom mount.

I have zero buffeting in clean air up to about 60mph. I actually need more tilt and I to achieve the results I want, which is to kill the remaining buffet that rears it's ugly head over 60, or if there is some dirty air, i.e.: close traffic, trucks, crosswinds. I am planning to invest in a madstad soon to get there.
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Use the Madstad WITH either the Givi or the Laminar Lip. I currently use the Givi but also have the stock screen with a Touring Lip. Both work better with the Madstad bracket.
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On my DL650 I'm having good results with the stock shield and the Madstad with it set all the way up and all the way forward....introduces a lot of air under the bottom of the screen which maybe is neutralizing the negative pressure behind the shield?
Whaddayathink?.....or maybe I am just easy to please !
I have the same setup and am very pleased with it.
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