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Old 09-21-2007, 02:47 PM
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Thumbs up Spencers Moto-Care Seat Mod Review

Got my seat back from Spencers. Very nice work. Some ok pictures can be found here.
  • He cut a "wedding tackle" channel in the center of the seat to keep my "junk" from going numb. Similar to the anatomical bicycle seats.
  • Underneath my spine/tailbone he placed a layer of thick honeycomb gel along the seat pan to reduce vibrations. (Foam is on top of gelÖgel is against plastic seat bottom.)
  • Created a butt pocket with softer memory foam that enhances the vertical lip where the transition from passenger to driver seat is.
  • He created a passenger center channel and butt pocket too.
  • Shaved some foam from the front "horn" or ramped portion of the seat where it transitions into the tank. Also cut foam from the knees for better feel.

My impressions:

Just for reference: 6í tall 32Ē inseam 180lbs.

Aesthetically there is absolutely no difference to stock. That is a fact I totally love. I'm one of those people that like things to look stock, or at least look like how the OEM might have done it.

For the center channel he cut out the stock foam there and replaced it with much softer memory foam, and that really helps my ďjunkĒ not go numb like the stocker made it. My stock seat would numb me out from about 25 minutes or less, it was not comfortable to me.

When you flip it over and look at the seat pan you can see the blue gel silhouette. The gel has reduced the vibrations considerably, itís kind of an icing on the cake mod compared to the shaping and other work in my opinion. The vibrations never really bothered me before but since it was going to be shipped across the country I decided to just get the whole shebang. Iím very glad I did too as it certainly contributes to a much nicer ride. It definitely had more of an effect than I thought it would.

The butt pocket is probably my favorite addition to the seat. Itís comprised of the softer memory foam as well and molds to the shape of your posterior after a few minutes very comfortably. More importantly it allows you to be captured by the seat a bit and makes the ramped up transition to the passenger portion stand a bit more proud. The effect is a mini back, or ridge (still composed of the OEM firmer foam) to be pushed into when you hammer the throttle. My older Magna had this too but made by Corbin and I loved it. Itís an elevated level of confidence that Iím planted in the seat, put another way, I feel more in control.

For the passenger he also created a butt pocket and center channel as the ladies need this relief as well. The biggest reason for the passenger pocket is to keep the passenger from sliding forward and backwards. This additional modification was only $15. Sheís not been on the bike since the new seat mod but if there is anything to report Iíll update this. Last time I noticed her trying to slide herself backwards after each stop so I hope this eliminates that.

In the front of the seat it rather sharply inclines into a ďhornĒ of sorts. That has been slimmed out ever so slightly, and the sides of that horn (where your knees rest) have been thinned out as well. Not so much that you feel the plastic below or anything but it helps the feel when youíre cornering and pressing your knees inwards. Those of you hanging off the sides of the bike for 200mph hairpins will not benefit from this. Me however, the guy with nary a scrape on his pegs, much enjoys this. :rolleyes:

The whole process was very simple and I found his web site answered all my questions. Shipping from LA was pricy but the whole investment is still much cheaper than an aftermarket seat and this one looks stock but is custom made to my specs. Iím very happy with the cost and quality. It took about 8 days to get to him via UPS ground, and then I received an email from him informing me heíd received it. Just over 24 hours later he had modified my seat and sent it back out to me. 8 days later I got it back. That is a lot of down time for me; I quickly descended into a dark place, but was very happy to find a large familiar looking package on my door 2.5 weeks later.
When you first sit on the seat it feels slightly different but not that much. This is because he uses memory foam in the butt pocket and center and that stuff takes a few minutes to compress to your body dimensions. A short ride shows off how fine a job Spencers does. Iíve got a ride coming up in the first weekend of October up the coast of CA. Iíll be doing some fire roads along the coast (the old coast road Ė Highway 1 before highway one existed, circa 1930s) Winds back and forth, up and down, plus the paved Highway one too so thatíll be an excellent chance to put this seat through the paces. Iíll update my post after that too if there is anything new to report.

So all in all I am very happy with the Spencers Moto Care seat mod. I hope this review helps someone! If anyone has any questions about it, or if youíre local and want to try it out, just give me a shout.

PS: I donít know how to post actual pics in the body of this? Mine are all at picasa, does that allow me to post on here? The link to them is above.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:00 PM
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+1 for the Spencer seat mod

I also had the mod done, although I don't think as extensive as yours. I sit "better" in the saddle. My butt fits "in" the seat more than "on" it, if that makes any sense. Did 400 miles in one day without serious butt-burn. Good mod.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:53 PM
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+1 for Spencer so far with the results for my part of the seat. I didn't get to go on a terribly long ride but I could definitely feel the improvement - didn't feel like someone sucker punched me in the sack. The only area of improvement I'd like to have on the seat is probably clothing related. Riding with jeans and boxers on a hot day doesn't work out so well and I hadn't expected the seat to do anything about that.

However, my lady actually found the changes on the passenger part more uncomfortable than before. Jury is still out there - not sure if there is any sort of "break-in" time to expect. Worst case - I'll get back in touch with Spencer and see what he'd recommend changing based on her feedback.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:32 AM
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I am very pleased with Spencers work also. I had this done in July and the more I ride with this seat, the more I appreciate his work. I had the passenger portion lowered a little bit at my wife's request. She says that the seat is noticeably more comfortable than before, and she liked the stock seat.
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+1 for Spencer so far with the results for my part of the seat.
Wow - just took a 4 day weekend to Deal's Gap. I spent a few 7-8 hour days in the saddle and could have done more without any discomfort!!! Short of finding a seat that managed to feel like sitting in an easy-chair, I can't image it being any better.

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However, my lady actually found the changes on the passenger part more uncomfortable than before. Jury is still out there.
Must have been an off-day because she's finding the seat to be perfectly comfortable now. She wasn't displeased with the stock seat so not much improvement was expected - but I'm glad I won't be sending the seat back to get anything else changed.

Worth every cent of the $90 + shipping I paid.
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Yeah I just did a trip up to Big Sur along the CA coast. 8 hours up and 8 hours back, plus on and off road riding. The seat is totally comfortable for all day hauls.

The only negative about the trip was the bloody wind! I said I didn't need a madstad....now I'm buying one. 60mph gusts, and full days on the highway, the designers really botched that windshield design. Great bike though!

Spencers seat is an absolute must have. No replacement for memory foam...even my old Corbin was nothing compared to this.
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I had the Spencer mod done too. I asked for about the same things mentioned in the first post, but I didn't get a detailed explanation of what he did. I can see the blue gel through the bottom of the pan. The seat looks EXACTLY like stock. I was hoping that he'd be able to cut out some of the slope in the back and make more of a semi-circle butt cut-out to move me back a little further and perhaps help with the tendency to slide forward. That didn't change, I assume because he does not recover the seats - your stock covering goes back on. Maybe my arse isn't sensitive enough to feel a pocket or whatever, but to me the seat just feels a bit more firmer and supportive than the stock. I don't bottom out into the seat pan on the tailbone or crotch anymore. I feel like I remain floating on the gel pad over time instead of sinking and hitting the pan like before. Vibrations might be less, I'm not sure. The gel does not seem to absorb heat. I do wish there was more foam or something soft to catch the "package" when sliding forward when hard braking becomes necessary. On my inner thighs, I can still feel the seat pan where my legs hang over. That can be bothersome. My chief complaints with the factory seat seem to be addressed though - relief of pressure on the crotch and tailbone.

I did a 650 mile day last Saturday. What I found was that alternating between the plain seat and an Alaskan sheepskin pad at gas stops provided a way to change pressure points up and keep me in the saddle longer. The last 100 miles, I was in some pain and was so glad to get off the bike for the day. I'd guess the Spencer modification doubled my saddle time tolerance over stock. So, it's worthwhile, but not a cure-all for me. I'm a guy who used to do 1000+ mile days on my Valkyrie, just to put this in perspective (i.e. my previous bike was a la-z-boy on two wheels!) This modification is not a substitute for a full-on custom seat, but I'd say it's better than slap-on pads. If money were no object, I'd go full custom through Russell or Mayer. At a fraction of the price though, this may well be good 'nuf for you if you're not an iron butter.
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I received my Spencer modified seat yesterday. I opted for the LD stuff as I have an artificial hip and am soon to have another. It is an improvement over the Suzuki gel seat, that much is for certain. I only went around 40 miles because of approaching weather.
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I sent my seat off tuesday, it is now friday and I recieved an e-mail that the seat is there. So far, I am very impressed with the communication. Every e-mail has always been replied to within 24 hours. I will post evaluation of the seat when I get it back.
A little back ground. I could ride about 300 miles on the stocker before the monkey butt would come in to play. To me, that is not terrible for a stock seat. I hope the re-vamp will produce a comfort level of 400 to 500 miles. I don't do this often, but want the ability to.


Test results are in. The seat is more compfy the the stocker for sure. For the price, I don't think you could do any better. It is NOT a custom $300+ dollar feel. It is better then stock and I now believe that a 400-500 day would be doable without great discomfort. For the $90 price tag to have both the driver and passenger seat redone and the LD gel added to the driver, it is a great deal!
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:53 AM
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I want to update my take on the Spencer seat mods. Yesterday I rode in 40ļ weather and found that the seat didn't firm up due to cold like the Suzuki gel seat does. This seat is just wonderful. I went like 70 miles and my hips didn't hurt afterwards! I feel as though I could ride again today. Two consecutive riding days are rare for me because of cumulative hip pain.

I know that isn't a testament that would encourage a long distance rider but it is a tremendous improvement for me.
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