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post #1 of 69 Old 12-30-2011, 02:53 PM Thread Starter
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Wee vs. Honda NC700XA ??

Newly announced Honda quasi adventure 670cc twin:

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Maybe not truly competitive, but looks interesting. Although the 14.1 ltr fuel tank is ridiculously small, Honda is claiming 28kms / ltr, or about 340 miles range. That would be something like 80 to 90 miles to the US gallon.

Might be interesting. Looks like it will be in the same price range and have optional touring luggage.

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post #2 of 69 Old 12-30-2011, 04:00 PM
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I saw that bike at the Toronto Motorcycle Show. It was interesting. The fuel tank is under the seat. They claim you can store a full face helmet in the area where the fuel tank should be.

I'm a little concerned about the 47hp. That seems fairly low for a 700cc bike. I would like to take one for a ride. Maybe Honda will do some demo days with it. Gas mileage isn't a concern for me. I ride for fun and not commuting.

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True, but its nice to see some growth in the 'mid-displacement' and 'reasonable price' categories. If it really does get that kind of mileage and isn't a complete dog in terms of performance, I'd definitely consider it for commuting. If it was actually fun to ride, it might make a good companion for our wee.

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"...claiming a modest 47hp and 44 lbs-ft of torque"

That is just stupid for a full size bike. Can you imagine overtaking?
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The new Ninja 400R produces the same HP but only 27 ft/lbs of torque and its rideable on the freeway. Won't really know until I ride one.

KLR650 produces 47.4 hp and 40.5 ft/lbs or torque, so this bike (while heavier) should be comparable at 44 ft/lbs.

DL650 produces about 47 ft/lbs or torque, so for those who ride the torque curve (most of us) they may be somewhat comparable.

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I've done a bit of reading about this bike.

It is a low rev'er. All of it's power is down low, similar technology as newer car engines--powerwise, at least...

An intelligent design platform that they will use the engine and (if I remember correctly) frame for a couple of different machines.

A similar 'scooter' will use the same drivetrain, etc.

The difference in HP and torque may be like attempting to compare conventional diesel and gasoline HP in a car/pickup.
Someone will say hp is hp, it's a viable argument until you've driven both.

I'd say that it might be interesting to try it before you buy it.





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what about the price!

according to the link the price for this is 9199 canadian.
you can get the 2012 650adventure for that price with the luggage and fancy windscreen.

just like the nt700abs...honda has missed the target again.

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according to the link the price for this is 9199 canadian.
you can get the 2012 650adventure for that price with the luggage and fancy windscreen.
New 2012 V-Strom 650ASE ABS with bags is MSRP $10,899 in Canada. The Canadian price compares to the base 2012 wee at $9,099.

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my experience with HONDA is you will pay a lot more for the same bike you get from Suzuki....

the Varadaro is a good example, they are now knocking 3500 off the price around here to make it competitive with the V...
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