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Old 09-19-2011, 07:33 PM
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I'm a lurker in some of the Guzzi forums, and more than the thin dealer network, I think a bigger problem might be spare parts availability. Hard parts, engine or electrics sound like they could put you off the road for weeks or months.

I'd love to own a Stelvio, but the scarcity of parts I perceive keeps me away.
Kugeln and Scott, You've raised a really good question and one that I've asked many times of both owners and dealers. Generally, the answer is something like -- the normal preventive maintenance and drive-line repair items are readily available. If you need something for a major rebuild or a unique item from an older model, that may take a bit longer. A complete engine for a Norge may fall into the latter category, but, I admit, it probably should not.

Over the past five years or so, I've been to 25 or 30 Guzzi Rallies in the Greater Mid-West. (By the way, they're a lot of fun if you ever get a chance to attend one.) I've talked to a ton of owners and looked at a gaggle of bikes. I don't hear any of those owners saying that parts availability is keeping them off the road.

Kugeln, First, you're in Houston. You have one of the premier Guzzi dealers in the nation in your area. Go there. Ask them your questions, look in their parts storage area and see what's available. Let them answer your concerns. I've been there and have talked to them. I feel they will do anything in their power to keep you on the road.
Second, if you want to hear what current Stelvio owners are saying, go to the Adventure Rider website, then to the "Beasts" section, then to the line of discussion titled "If you own a Guzzi Stelvio, how do you like it?" This might help you understand how the bike is performing.

Guys, as I said initially, I really want to own/ride a Guzzi in my riding life and my clock's ticking. I recently turned 78, so there're not that many more chunks of time in my bucket to enjoy long distance touring and camping trips. If getting a next generation Stelvio is the worst decision I've ever made, it's been a pretty good ride.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:38 PM
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... Guys, as I said initially, I really want to own/ride a Guzzi in my riding life and my clock's ticking. I recently turned 78, so there're not that many more chunks of time in my bucket to enjoy long distance touring and camping trips. If getting a next generation Stelvio is the worst decision I've ever made, it's been a pretty good ride.
I agree. If that's what you want then by all means do it. I'll be 60 in a week and I ride a VFR for the same reason: Simply because I can and I want to.

FWIW, I really do think Guzzi makes some great machines. They have been around forever and they know what they are doing.
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Guys, as I said initially, I really want to own/ride a Guzzi in my riding life and my clock's ticking. I recently turned 78, so there're not that many more chunks of time in my bucket to enjoy long distance touring and camping trips. If getting a next generation Stelvio is the worst decision I've ever made, it's been a pretty good ride.
Amen to that! Chuck, your an inspiration to us and I hope you get a chance to put a Guzzi on your list.

I lived in Rock Island, Illinois for several years and there used to be a tiny hole in the wall dealer there(maybe still there?). I believe at the time they had MG and KTM franchises, talk about niche market! I always enjoyed visiting that store and checking out the bikes. I can't remember the last time I saw a Guzzi but I hope I get a chance to see one down in Columbus in the future. Good luck.
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OK Guys,

This is a follow-up to the earlier post about the Model Year 2012 Moto-Guzzi Stelvio NTX. It has been in the garage since late June, '12 and, of this writing, has almost 5K miles on the odometer.

In short, it's been a great experience. I could write volumes of my impressions of my Wee compared to the Stelvio but there's no sense wasting space. They are somewhat similar (made for basically the same purpose, AdvTouring) but very different. I'm enjoying my rides on the Stelvio and am looking forward to many more.

Kevin (IndyRider) was at our home recently to check out some of my Wee parts and he actually sat on the Stelvio. I'm not certain he will ever be quite the same again.

My advice -- don't sit on one. And definitely don't accept an offer to test ride one.
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ebay Italy...Google Translate might get a work out.
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Chuck, so glad you followed through with the Stelvio purchase! I think people would love to hear your impressions of the MG, and even how it compares to the Strom. I always thought the Stelvio would be the love child between my Harley and Wee, getting the best qualities of both of course. I'm hoping one day I'll open the garage door and see a freshly birthed Stelvio.

Actually, I've developed an infatuation with the new, red V7 Classic.
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OM28,

After almost three years (25K miles) on the '09 Wee-ABS and 6 months (5K miles) on the '12 Stelvio NTX, let me try to compare the two bikes. This is all IMO, so take it for what it's worth.

Once you say they have the same wheelbase and tire sizes (F & R) and the same overall lengths, somewhat similar upright seating positions and similar long-travel suspensions, the logical comparisons are about done.

The basic purpose for the bikes from the OEMs is different!

The Wee, to provide basic, cost effective, transportation with a solid, do-everything kind of bike. As delivered, it's a good commuter, good day-tripper, good fun-to-ride bike, either solo or two-up, at very good value. It can be turned into a decent long distance tourer with the addition/mods of the necessary hardware.

The NTX, to compete effectively with the BMW GS Adventurer, primarily in Europe/UK. Those are MG's primary markets, the US only takes 10% (~500 or so) of MG's total annual production. As delivered -- complete with rear cases, crash bars, skid plate, running lights, hand guards, 8.5 US Ga tank -- it matches up very well against the GS in everything, including Wet Weight. And while it can be used for commuting and day-tripping, it's much more comfortable when fully loaded, out on the road and, with the big tank, it has a 300 mile range. It loves to run fast, very fast. The engine, although it has full torque down to 2K RPM, lumps along a bit until ~4K.

This is what comes to mind at the moment. It's Thanksgiving and the turkey is beginning to smell really good. I'll think about this subject some more and add additional comparision thoughts later.

Ride safe.
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I just read this thread. I think its awesome you took the plunge and got the Goose. Life is short and if you see a bike that you just have to have, then get it.
So glad its met your expectations of it.
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OK, Thanksgiving Day is over, the turkey was great, lots of family around and I'm actually eating the last of a cherry pie as I type this. I justify it as a "fruit and pastry snack" prior to breakfast.

A couple of additional points on the Wee-ABS to Stelvio NTX comparisons --

First, the fork rake on the NTX is a couple of degrees more shallow than on the Wee. One result is that the NTX is very much more stable at high speeds, even when heavily loaded (a serious weakness for the Wee, as delivered). A second result is that the NTX is less comfortable (slower) in tight twisty conditions than the Wee and requires more concentration and strength in those riding manuevers.

Second, all bikes have essentially the same components -- each has brakes, suspension systems, wheels, windshields, etc. The OEM's decide the expected price range for their bike in advance and that decision determines the level of components that can be used. The Wee was to marketed as a solid, but cost effective performer, in a moderate price range and in somewhat limited useage. The componentry used was solid but at the lower level. The NTX, on the other hand, was expected to be a more upscale bike with a very different useage and the componentry used was higher level throughout.

Last, not really a comparison with the Wee but, the Guzzi design engineers did a really good job of putting the proverbial "8 lbs in a 6 lb sack" when they figured out how to package an 8.5 US Ga fuel tank so the bike is not tremendously top heavy (when full) nor bulbous in appearance and high or wide around the tank. I believe the engine design allowed this to happen. The cross-mounted 90 degree Vee can be set lower in the frame with no chance of touching the heads during severe cornering (different than the BMW engine design). That allowed the plastic fuel tank to be dropped down inside the upper frame rails and kept things from getting too wide/high.

That is all I can think of at the moment. As I said, I'm enjoying the Stelvio and am looking forward to many more happy miles. Now, I just have to figure out how to mount my Rostra Cruise Control on it prior to next year's riding season gets here.

Ride safe.
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