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Murph's Center Stand Binding Problem

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#1 ·
I installed my Murph's Center Stand today. It all went together in about half an hour, and even the springs only took a couple of tries.

Now here's my problem.

I don't have an extension for my torque wrench so until I can get one I just snugged up the bolts with a short wrench. I'm pretty good at judging torque, and I certainly didn't go crazy.

The stand was impossibly stiff, and would stay wherever it was put. I tried loosening the 10mm bolts back out until they were finger tight but it didn't help.

Have I bent the brackets and they're pinching the bushings? It seems unlikely that they could be so warped from my puny strength and a 4" long ring spanner.
Will they hammer out?

I used plenty of grease on all the surfaces so that's not the problem.

Any suggestions?
 
#3 ·
I installed my Murph's Center Stand today. It all went together in about half an hour, and even the springs only took a couple of tries.

Now here's my problem.

I don't have an extension for my torque wrench so until I can get one I just snugged up the bolts with a short wrench. I'm pretty good at judging torque, and I certainly didn't go crazy.

The stand was impossibly stiff, and would stay wherever it was put. I tried loosening the 10mm bolts back out until they were finger tight but it didn't help.

Have I bent the brackets and they're pinching the bushings? It seems unlikely that they could be so warped from my puny strength and a 4" long ring spanner.
Will they hammer out?

I used plenty of grease on all the surfaces so that's not the problem.

Any suggestions?
Sounds like you tightened the bolts too much ( Bushing Bolts ) - I have mine snug enough to feel almost no resistance when the stand retracts, also used thread lock.
 
#4 ·
Guess I don't know my own strength. I try prying them apart. Damn, that means the springs have to come off. Not something I wanted to do twice!
 
#5 ·
It should not be possible to tighten the bolts enough to squash the spacers. Make sure you have the spacers in the right places. Others have reported the same thing though. You should be able to remove one bolt at a time to apply thread locker without dismantling the whole thing.
 
#7 ·
Yeah, especially hand tight with no ratchet. The spacers are correct, they are very different sizes and even I would have trouble getting it wrong.

I don't think it will loosen up on its own. It takes a good amount of effort to even start it down. If it won't return via spring power alone it's useless.
 
#6 · (Edited)
It's also naturally tight for a while. Mine loosened up after a while and works fine now. I know how that sounds. I'm talking about a center stand. Keep your minds out of the gutter. :bom_smartass2:


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#8 ·
Went through that same nonsense with a factory Suzuki centerstand. Why Murph's made a copy of that mess I have no idea. What's even worse the design is the build/execution (at least of the Suzuki, I've not seen Murph's in person), it looks like it was welded together by a 14 year old in his first shop class. Hands down the worst of any bike I've owned since 1980.

So, don't feel bad, you're not alone. I sent mine back to the dealer for a refund instead of monkeying around and fixing the design/fitting issues I discovered.
 
#10 ·
Got a great deal from a fellow Strommer. Second-hand but never installed.
 
#11 ·
It's definitely binding. I haven't had a chance to take it apart yet, but I'm surprised this can happen with the spacers in place.

Guess I don't know my own strength!

 
#12 ·
i had the same issue with my Murph's Stand after re-reading the instructions on-line I realized I had the bushings installed from the wrong side, try flipping them, the flange of the bushing needs to go torwards the inside of the bike if I am remembering correctly
 
#13 ·
i had the same issue with my Murph's Stand after re-reading the instructions on-line I realized I had the bushings installed from the wrong side, try flipping them, the flange of the bushing needs to go torwards the inside of the bike if I am remembering correctly
Now that you mention it.....I had to do the same thing. I was tempted to file off some of the stand so that the bushing would stick out a little more, never did it though.
 
#14 ·
Have the same stand, had the same prob.. Never fear, it will wear in, just like........oh never mind.
 
#15 ·
If it's a 'wear-in' issue, it's likely because whoever designed it did not take into account the thickness of the powder coat.
Often the mockup is done with raw steel, the bushings are 'made/fit' to that scenario and later the powdercoat is applied to the non-mockup unit making the fit a bit too tight...
 
#16 ·
Funny thing is it went in easily. It was only after I snugged up the bolts that it started looking like this.

And yes, the bushings went in the right way round (in to out)

I'm sure it'll loosen up, but until then I'll have to get off the bike every time and kick it up into place. I don't expect to use it much, so that won't be too much of a hardship I suppose.
 
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