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Old 01-04-2013, 07:07 PM
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I've narrowed my options for which hard luggage to get for my DL1000 down to the Givi Trekkers, but I can't decide which size to get. I like the way they can convert from side to top cases, and plan to get a pair of them - for long trips the pair will be mounted as side-bags, also providing a nice large surface across the back of the bike to strap extra bags/tent/etc. to, and for commuting to work one will be left in the garage while the other serves as a top-bag (I work in IT and have a reasonably large laptop-bag that goes with me - occasionally also taking a tool-box or some parts along). I have managed to find a few pictures of bikes with the 46's mounted on both sides and I don't think it looks awkwardly wide, and the capacity would be nice - but I worry about scraping them in the corners when they are mounted on the sides.

Has anyone here mounted a pair of TRK46N's to the sides of their bike and leaned it all the way over? What scrapes first - the bags, or the peg-feelers? If the bags scrape first - then I am also curious if the 33's resolve the issue, and let you lean all the way?

It's not that I always ride that hard - but on every long trip I've done so far I find at least one nice section of road where I just can't help opening it up for a bit.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:27 PM
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I run the setup you describe. I have the 33s on either side and a 46 on top. I've not tried the 46 on the side but I can tell you that the 33s will rub before the feelers so I imagine the 46 would be worse.

I've found that 2 33s and a 46 on top offer more space than I need. I've done many long trips with the trekkers. No complaints, I'm very happy with them.
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Wasn't able to check back here over the weekend - thanks for the reply but unfortunately thats not good news for my plans. The 46's will definitely get in the way of fun lean-angles if even the 33's rub first. Just curious - is that on a 650 or 1000? I know the seat-height on the 1000 is about an inch higher, does that also translate into any extra clearance for luggage? I'll have to either look into a pair of the 33's, or go back to looking at other bags that aren't square in the lower outside corners.
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Luggage dragging fears may be a matter of style and setup. Crank up the rear preload when adding loaded luggage. You want the suspension to sag about 40mm from full extension when carrying the rider and load. When changing the load, the rear preload also needs to be changed. Here's a picture of a rider dragging a peg while the side case seems to be barely clearing. Notice the rider is more upright than the bike. If he was leaning his body into the turn instead of outside the turn, he'd have a lot more clearance. He doesn't need to be playing road racer to do that. Just getting his head over the inside mirror would do the trick.

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Old 01-07-2013, 11:56 AM
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My 33s are mounted on a 650. I've never tried the 46 on the side. I thought about it, but I have so much space in those 33s it's never been an issue.

I have rubbed the front corners off the 33s on both sides. Minor scuffs. My boots usually rub before the luggage does.

I don't have any action photos of the bike, but if you zoom in to this photo, you can see the front and rear pegs and the corner of the bag on the left side. If you draw a line from the tire up past the pegs to the luggage, they are all about the same angle.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

If you're really curious I could pop the 46's on the side and take another photo. Also, I'm using a Happy trails rack, which may make a difference.

There is a luggage photo thread on this site with a photo of 2 of bikes with 46s on the side. Might ask those riders about leaning with that case. Here's the link:

Luggage pictures thread

There's also a photo of the new trekker 52 liter top box on the last page. Looks more streamlined on the bike than the 46.

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Dragging luggage is definitely my fear - I know the pegs are hinged and will fold when I scrape them, combined with my foot being there I can feel when it happens and know to slow down a bit. But if hard-luggage scrapes, I worry that with nowhere for it to go it will take weight off the rear tire and result in me sliding out of the corner. The hinged peg-feelers are my safety barrier and I would very much like to maintain having that after I mount luggage to the bike. I haven't adjusted my rear preload from stock yet - is there a good/recommended way of measuring the suspension sag with/without load?

And I am aware of proper body positioning while riding through the corners - when I find a nice windy bit and push a little, I'm leaning a lot more to the inside than just head over the mirror - I hang off the handlebars to the inside, with butt also off to the inside and just my outside leg hanging on the seat. For reference, last year during a 9-day trip we took a road called the Flowery Trail Road that is the most fun piece of road I've ever ridden. Virtually all of the corners were marked with 35mph warnings, there was no traffic (didn't see another vehicle on that entire road), and perfect conditions (great weather, clean brand-new smooth pavement, etc.), and I averaged ~160kmh (100 mph) through most of those corners (and didn't scrape any pegs in that section either). Also - I don't advocate others do that, never ride above your comfort level, don't push yourself to keep up with others in your group. But I don't have a problem with having a little fun when conditions are right and the risk to others if you screw up is low (no 100mph playing in traffic/cities please). If you are in that area though, I do highly recommend that road.

So - back to the topic, my second choice for bags were the Trax alu-boxes. I lose the modularity of being able to use just one of them as a top-box for commuting, but they do bevel the lower outside corners of the boxes for more clearance while leaning. Can anyone comment on whether they have any impact on lean angles on the bike?
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:36 PM
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I'll just add for the last time in this thread, probably for the benefit of other readers, it is a bad practice to push performance levels while carrying luggage. I have the scars to prove it. It's your body though so let the discussion continue.
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