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Old 10-15-2012, 05:36 PM
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...difference between the Shinko and Full Bore tires is the Full Bore versions are V-rated. Not sure what kind of rubber compound and/or tire carcass alterations were done to achieve the higher speed rating.
The tires that pass the quality control tests get the Full Bore label and the others get the Shinko label???

Anyway, both are Korean, and they look so much alike that they're probably both made by Shin Hung in Korea, probably the same molds.
Welcome to the Korea official homepage of Shinko Tires

Can anyone post the info in the small print on the sides of both the Full Bore and the Shinko? The number of plies in the sidewall and in the tread belts, etc.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:10 PM
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I have run both the fullbore rear and the front. I still have the front on my bike. The big difference is the fullbore is V rated. But I can now tell you I will no longer run either the fullbore or shinko's as both were done on the rear at 5000 miles. The front is now cupped badly at 10000. So I will spend more on my tires and get more too. My Tourance rear went 10000 and cost less then two of the shinko's that's enough for me. They also don't carry the baggage of the funky handling until they wear in. Both the fullbore and shinko's do.


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I almost got the Tourances, found em online for around $270 for the pair - which is quite good!, but figured I'd try these low cost versions first, for the heck of it. I paid about 160 bux total, via Chaparral.com.

Leaving work tonight, I did take dirt roads home, and all I can say is that while these tires initially feel weird on the tarmac (at least until they 'wear in' as others have suggested), they are absolutely magic on hardpacked dirt roads w/ a little grit, rocks, and gravel thrown in for good measure. I found myself saying "wow" to myself...... All of the odd road turn-in feel disappears, and the big heavy strom feels like a mountain bike on singletrack. I always felt a little lacking for grip and feedback while running the Battlewings on dirt roads, so these Full Bore tires really were a confidence booster - you can really feel the dirt. I did some hard stops on the dirt, as well as side to side swervy manouvers, and no odd behaviors were detected. These tires grip well on the dirt. Very satisfied.

These tires really come to life once you leave the pavement.

As for the projected mileage? We'll see. I don't see myself being Casey Stoner with these shoes, so time will tell. Hope the rains hold off, so I can ride again tomorrow, and scrub em in a bit more.
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They do great on the off road surface you described. But beware of mud they don't do well in mud at all. Now the k60 is amazing off road in all conditions. I do hope you experience better mileage then I did.
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They do great on the off road surface you described. But beware of mud they don't do well in mud at all. Now the k60 is amazing off road in all conditions. I do hope you experience better mileage then I did.
Right on about the mud! - luckily, riding in the mud is something I'll probably be avoiding....I'm a moderately fair-weather fiend. As for the mileage, time will tell.

But, what a difference two days makes. I think the tire carcass is beginning to relax and loosen up, reducing that weird turn-in sensation I mentioned on my initial ride on these tires. They do still exhibit an eagerness to tilt the bike when countersteered off of tracking straight ahead. I'm getting used to that. Don't even really mind it anymore......

Just starting to get up on the edges of these tires and scuff em in, and judging by how far the tread wraps around to the sidewalls, I think that if only used for street riding, there will be permanent chicken strips at the sides of the tire - there's just no way to lean a VStrom far enuff to touch the tread edges (except for in the dirt/uneven terrain, where the sidewall knobs would definitely be useful). Can't wait to wear off the tire mold nubbins......

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Geezer Brain took a while but wanted to mention

IRC GP-110 as I consider near a real 50:50 Tire
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Just curious, how are the Full Bore re road noise and vibration?
Typical low speed stuff....on smooth pavement pulling up for a stop or red light can feel the "bumpity bumps", but nothing that causes concern or discontentment. Also, road noise is minimal in my opinion. Of course, I was riding a WR400 with knobbies on the road as well. MUCH quieter than that!

Again, not a street slick, but worthy and a good compromise IMO.
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Geezer Brain took a while but wanted to mention

IRC GP-110 as I consider near a real 50:50 Tire

The GP-110 is not available in V-Strom sizes.
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More FYI

But rears are in 17's
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The days that I can ride without really freezing my azz off, are numbered, but I'd like to report that the Full Bores have worn in, and lost that weird feeling that the new tires exhibit. My hunch is that the tire carcass really needs riding to loosen up all the layers/fibers/strands or whatever, to allow the tire to relax and react normally.

The handling feels super light, and it's really effortless to initiate direction changes. Also, the Strom's tendency to wander slightly just before fully coming to a stop has been drastically reduced, as compared to my old tire combo - the Battlewing. I've also been leaning the bike over more and more, getting a feel for the edge grip these tires offer, and they do feel pretty good - no weird squirming when leaned over. You never know with tires that have big knob blocks, if they'll get squirmy or not, so I'm glad the tires feel nice and planted in corners when ridden at a non-crazy pace.

The 20mph buzz is still there, but it's neither annoying or detrimental to my riding enjoyment. I did have the bike on the highway, at 80+ mph, and was really quite surprised by how smooth rolling the tires felt. There was none of the vibration I expected to find, going at such speeds on a semi-knobby like this - I could not tell that I was riding on a semi-knobby tire, and it felt like a normal street tire. And, taking dirt roads home on my commute is now something to be looked forward to, instead of an excercise in white knuckle frustration that sometimes was the case when I had the Battlewings on the bike. The increase in dirt traction is very noticeable, when compared to regular street tires, or even very mild dual sport tires like the BW's. I feel immeasurably more secure on dirt, knowing I can at least brake a bit hard, and take some evasive maneuvers if a deer, or raccoon, or even a squirrel tries to jump out in front of me. That's the main reason I got these tires, because I always felt like if I got into a 'situation' on a dirt road, I'd be severely compromised with my options if I were riding on my old Battlewings.

The only remaining odd sensation that I notice is that when one banks the bike into a curve, a bit of active countersteering is required to bring the bike back out of the curve. The bike doesn't seem to want to bring itself out of a corner naturally. I never had to do this with the Battlewings - it's as if the "self righting" feature of the bike is disabled with the Full Bores. It could be the triangular tire profile vs a more rounded profile (Battlwing), it doesn't affect performance in any way, but it is a noticeable, but subtle effect. I do find that if I help steer by using my hips, as well as countersteering, the bike does effortlessly complete corners with little or no thought.

All in all, I'm way more than pleased with these tires. The low price, great dirt road handling, and surprisingly smooth street feel makes for a great tire. I will admit, I was a bit terrified at moments when the tires were new and exhibited the weird break-in handling oddities and thought I'd made a serious mistake!, but now that it's all resolved itself, I find I'm confident riding with these tires. I would buy these again, now that I know what to expect!

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