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post #1 of 35 Old 10-11-2012, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
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Chain rust

I clean the chain every 500 miles or so with kerosen and lube it with Dupont Teflon spray. I got 25,817 miles out of this chain. Guess it's time to replace it. Can't trust it now for any extended travel.



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DuPont chain saver is a dry wax formula that doesn't attract dirt. I wouldn't clean it off with kerosene so often and expose the bare metal. In fact, I wouldn't clean it at all but only wipe it after each application of lube, in effect, using the lube as a cleaner. 25,000 miles seems about average for 500 mile lubing. I'm trying chain lube after every gas stop now instead of every second one to see if that increases chain life.

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this is interesting.

I've been rather negligent with my chain maintenance. I dont clean it very often, and pretty much only remember to grease/wax it after long rides.

I've been out in the rain, dirt etc.

I just had a new tire put on the back, and looks like the chain is still good for another 5000 to 6000 km according to the mechanic. I just past 41 000 km on the bike (chain is original)

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A little surface rust on the side plates isn't a real big deal. Rust coming out from under the rollers indicates a dying chain. No need to clean the chain unless it has a lot of abrasive grit on it, and you probably won't get that with the DuPont stuff, anyway. Just a wipe with a dry cloth, if anything, should be sufficient unless there is goopy lube residue.

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The problem with rust is it tends to grow. When it grows past the O/X-rings, it becomes a problem as the rings no longer seal. The usual first sign of a chain needing replacement for me is kinked links.

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post #6 of 35 Old 10-11-2012, 03:04 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, that rusty stuff is the same material that you see on each end of railway cars.... metal to metal with no lubrication causes this.
I think that's why they are closing in new cars when they are railed.
Of course I could be wayyyyyyyyy out in left field with this.
Any railway men/ladies out there?
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DuPont chain saver is a dry wax formula that doesn't attract dirt. I wouldn't clean it off with kerosene so often and expose the bare metal. In fact, I wouldn't clean it at all but only wipe it after each application of lube, in effect, using the lube as a cleaner. 25,000 miles seems about average for 500 mile lubing. I'm trying chain lube after every gas stop now instead of every second one to see if that increases chain life.
Sorry I misspoke. I lube it before every ride and on trips once a day. I clean it with kerosene every 500 miles or so unless on a trip then it is once a week or 1,500 - 2,000 miles. As stated, rust is a sign of a dying chain. This is the first time I have ever seen rust on this chain.

Now I get to do all the chain research all over again. Seems like it changes every two years. O-ring, X-ring, W-ring, DID, EK, RK, etc 525 vs 530.

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I just put a Scottoiler on my Wee. Hope this will work out as well as everyone says! I had been using Dupont chainsaver, but I too saw some light rust starting after driving through 2 days of rain on a recent trip.
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I think that metal to metal stuff is called fretting and happens when the parts don't get lubed or washed clean of lube from too much diligence.

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I dutifully cleaned my chain with kerosene at 600mi and put on some name-brand chain lube. 600 miles later (1200mi total on the bike) I had rust already.

I commute, and the bike has seen it's share of rain - but I just can't believe how worthless that chain lube was for rust protection. On the plus side, being diligent about cleaning means I discovered it quickly.

I'm going to just start bathing my chain in WD40 and not worry about it. A regular bath of WD40 can't be that much unlike a Scott oiler, can it?
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