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post #1 of 48 Old 02-14-2017, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
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Tire Question: re-plug or replace

Hello all, I have a question about when to replace a tire....

I am a new rider. I have a 2012 DL 650 with real low miles.... I bought it in November with a little over 2 K miles and I've now got about 3k on it. It's been a joy. It came with Bridgestone Trailwing 152s and they still have lots of tread. Unfortunately, when I was checking my tire pressure on the way to meet some other riders over the weekend, I found my first nail -- a one-and-half-incher all the way in to the head. So I fixed my first flat in the garage with a plug-n-go kit. I am worried I may have reamed out the puncture hole a bit too much, though. I got it plugged, but it now seems to have a slow leak, and is losing 2-3 psi a day.

My question to all you seasoned strominators: Should I suck it up and buy a new tire, try to re-plug this one somehow (can you even do that?), or leave it be and just inflate it for rides. I would be pissed to have to throw out a tire with so much left on the tread. (Just bought a Shoei helmet, and the wallet is badly dented). On the other hand, I don't want to do anything risky, and lose all tire pressure on a highway or twisty.

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You only have two wheels, not four and a plug is only a temporary fix - change the tire!
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post #3 of 48 Old 02-14-2017, 09:44 PM
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I disagree that a plug is necessarily temporary. I wouldn't race on it, but unless it was a huge hole, it should hold.

I would check using a soapy solution to make sure the plug is where you're losing the air.

A few days after replacing an unfixable tire, I was surprised to see that the it was totally flat again after being parked. I used a leak detector solution and found that air was actually leaking from the valve stem, which I guess just didn't seal back up correctly after the swap.
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I agree - plugs can last for thousands of miles....life of tire.

Question tho ...are you using the string type?
If so - just stick another string beside the first ( will take some grunt )

Had the same thing on a near new P3 and the plug lasted the life of the tire.

we had tried mushroom and that was useless ..so our hole was a bit large.
First string left just a tiny slow leak ...second one plugged it perfectly.

I would NOT ride it with a leak that fast....just put a second string in


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Properly done plug/patches are permanent fixes in fixable tires. Some motorcycle tire manufacturers approve them and others don't. There is no consensus so debates break out and you end up listening to the repair guy. Those stock BTW rears won't last that long anyways so it is up to you whether a good plug/patch repair is worth it. I wouldn't stay with a home worm repair. Mushrooms (like stopngo)won't hold long at all.

"Continental, Michelin, Pirelli, and Shinko’s position on dealing with punctures is clear as day: Don’t even bother carrying a plug kit. “Call a tow truck,” is how one VP of marketing replied when asked what to do when you get a flat. These tire manufacturers assert that there are too many variables involved, from the puncture to the repair, and that there is simply too much at risk in terms of rider safety and liability to condone it, even in an emergency. Most dealerships and repair shops share this sentiment.

Other brands, specifically Avon, Bridgestone, Dunlop, and Metzler, offer an opinion that’s more in line with what consumers would hope to hear: Yes, punctures can be plugged in an emergency situation, and a repair that both fills the wound (plug) and seals the damage (patch) that is installed by a professional can even be considered permanent if specific criteria are met."

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What do you expect them to say ?? That's of no value. They have liability to deal with and want you to buy more tires.
Better is talk to riders that have actually plugged tires and run for distance on them.

Do what you want with your money - let others decide on the facts ..not relying on dealers avoiding liability and wanting you to throw away a perfectly good tire.

Quality string plug kits actually vulcanize from the heat of running forming a permanent bond. After my experience with the plug, and talking to others, I have no issue running a plugged tire for its tread life.

An engineer and incredibly experience distance rider also has no issues with plugs ....stuck one in his BMW in Alaska ( he rides about 30,000 km every year on a single long trip.
He rode the bike home with he plug.

I have a TPMS system tho and if you want to spend money ....that's the ticket IMNSHO.

I got it for the Burgman as the bike brakes and small diameter tires makes checking a nightmare. Moved it over to the Wee.
Very reassuring and lets you see hot your tires get and how they handle at other pressures that you can actually see as you ride.

Found these getting good reviews



http://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Tir...=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

4 years now and still works fine.


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So I fixed my first flat in the garage with a plug-n-go kit. I am worried I may have reamed out the puncture hole a bit too much, though. I got it plugged, but it now seems to have a slow leak, and is losing 2-3 psi a day.
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Quality string plug kits actually vulcanize from the heat of running forming a permanent bond.
This is what crossed my mind as I read your post. Did you run the tire up to heat after plugging it?

Another thing to keep in mind, and I'm aware of the $$ aspect here but, if the tire is original the rubber is pushing five years old no matter what the thread looks like. Just something to consider.
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Cool. Thanks for the input guys. It was a mushroom plug; that may be part of the problem.
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This topic comes up a lot on motorcycle forums, and there is usually someone who will tell you that you're courting disaster if ride on a plugged tire. I don't know where this idea comes from. Do people really think that a steel belted radial tire is going to catastrophically fail and fly apart because it's been plugged? Worst case scenario is that the plug leaks, and you end up with a flat tire again. In a lot of the poorer parts of the world where they can't afford to buy a brand new tire every time they get a nail in it, I'd guess there are a lot of plugged tires rolling around with no issues.

I never plugged a tire with one of the mushroom plugs, but I've heard other guys complain that they didn't work as well as a string plug.
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Take it off and take to a tire repair shop, they can patch it from the inside, good as new.
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