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post #21 of 48 Old 02-16-2017, 07:55 AM
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I've plugged many tires on many different vehicles, one on my Strom and never had a failure. This is the type of plug kit I use.

https://www.amazon.com/Slime-1034-T-...=tire+plug+kit
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post #22 of 48 Old 02-16-2017, 10:50 AM
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I had a similar experience. About a month after I bought my bike last year, I also ended up with a flat due to a nail on my rear tire. Luckily I was near home when I noticed it, so was able to make it back. I did a fair amount of research on the subject here and elsewhere, and decided to go the route of plugging it with one of the mushroom plugs, but then took it back to the dealership where I purchased the bike where they installed a more permanent fix from the inside.

About 7000 miles later, I have not had any problems (I say as I knock on wood) and plan on replacing the tires (Bridgestones that originally came on the bike) whenever it is time to replace them.
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post #23 of 48 Old 02-16-2017, 12:21 PM
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I have used the stringy coated plugs for years in many tires. Once in a while I will get a plug that leaks slowly, I have found that if you use the cement/glue in conjunction with the plug it doesnt leak at all. The ones I ever had a problem with were the ones I didnt use glue on.
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The "Stop and Go" rubber mushroom plugs do not work in motorcycle tires. So if that's what you used, this isn't a mystery.
I disagree - as I stated I've used them 4 times now with no issues. In fact right now I have a mushroom and a string plug in my rear tire and no issues. Why do you believe they won't work in a motorcycle tire?

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Too many horror stories out there about mushroom plug failures including from me.
The main issue tho is strings are designed to vulcanize to the tire - mushroom plugs do not.

The down side with these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ET525K...vert-amazon-20
is the flimsy tools.
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Ive plugged tires before and it CAN be a permanent fix. I usually have a cold patch done very soon after a plug. I just prefer them and believe them to be a better solution. That being said, like many of you have stated, many friends I know have run them till the tire needs replaceing. Your choice-Captain of your own ship I say just my 2c!
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post #27 of 48 Old 02-16-2017, 03:23 PM
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Too many horror stories out there about mushroom plug failures including from me.
The main issue tho is strings are designed to vulcanize to the tire - mushroom plugs do not.

The down side with these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ET525K...vert-amazon-20
is the flimsy tools.
Still not clear - how would a mushroom plug fail?
It's not like it can get sucked inside and because of the cap it cannot be expelled.
When pulled tight the cap is flat against the inside completely covering the hole. The stem has a diameter about 1/4" which plugs a pretty freaking big hole and is of softish rubber so it conforms to the hole.

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Too many horror stories out there about mushroom plug failures including from me.
The main issue tho is strings are designed to vulcanize to the tire - mushroom plugs do not.

The down side with these
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ET525K...vert-amazon-20
is the flimsy tools.
There is a slightly more expensive version of the kit under the same brand name, sometimes sold side by side. The handles are stronger and more ergonomic, and business ends of both the reamer and the insertion tool are more robust and a better design. Well worth the extra couple bucks.

I also carry little tubes of rubber cement, because getting the tools into small punctures can be an almost impossible task without it.
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I have no experience with the "mushroom" type of plug so can't speak to that.

I can tell you that I have had about 6 punctures on my Stroms. I have only ever used the "strings" to repair them. Most were on the road and in two cases the tires were almost new. The fixes lasted the normal life of the tire. I think the first or second time I tried I had to do it over until I got the hang of it but once I did I never had any issue with leakage. I have also fixed a friend's on his much larger Sport Tourer while we were on the road. In addition my 2007 Porsche Boxster got a nail in a rear tire in the first few hundred km's. It was fixed at my work with a string type of plug. (Porsche is very much against any repairing of tires and I am sure if I was driving on the Autobaun I would be against using it as well.)

I carry a compressor and repair stuff under my seat at all times.


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Still not clear - how would a mushroom plug fail?
It's not like it can get sucked inside and because of the cap it cannot be expelled.
When pulled tight the cap is flat against the inside completely covering the hole. The stem has a diameter about 1/4" which plugs a pretty freaking big hole and is of softish rubber so it conforms to the hole.
Every Stop-and-Stay mushroom plug I have installed in a motorcycle tire has failed. They've done OK in car tires.

Basically, the heads of the plugs end up bouncing around the inside of the tire. As the tire flexes, the soft rubber plug gets sliced in two and the inside "mushroom head" part pops out.

To be fair, I haven't tried them in radial motorcycle tires. But they failed in every instance when I used them in a bias-ply motorcycle tire. After I went through six plugs in a simple nail hole to make it 50 miles home, I switched to a "sticky string" kit.

If your experience with these plugs has been different, great.

They have failed repeatedly for me and for many others, and there are much more reliable, not to mention cheaper and easier, alternatives for making puncture repairs available just about anywhere.


I carry a Nealey kit now -- it's basically a "sticky string" type of plug that's installed a little differently than most. They also are made with a slightly different compound that doesn't require glue. When you install it properly you end up with a knot on the inside of the tire that retains the plug. They're very versatile, and they even come in a nice little tube that tucks into your tool kit.
Nealey Tire Repair Kit - Repair Kits (the mini kit is perfect for motorcycles and cars)

I've never once had a problem with the Nealey plugs or with the many "sticky string" plugs I've installed.
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