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post #1 of 167 Old 01-30-2017, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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New 1000 or 650? Or 1200GS? That is the question.

I'm riding a '14 1000 and quite like it, but have a couple of nagging gripes so am thinking of treating myself for my 60th to a new bike. Two serious contenders are the new V strom 650 and 1000. I do the usual 90% pavement, touring, and 10% dirt exploring and wild camping. I've done some off-road training.

Here are the gripes: the seat is not all-day comfy. I paid a fortune for a Corbin and hate it. Don't want to take a chance on buying another seat. I hate the snatchy throttle off-road and Suzuki hasn't been able to cure it. Don't want to spend the money for a Dynojet and tuning. I've already spent a fortune upgrading the bike for touring and off-road camping. It's a bit top-heavy and a handful off-road.

Likes are the fully adjustable suspension. It's awesome. The power. It's a nice motor. Those are the things I'm afraid I'd miss the most.

I know that I need to ride the new ones to see for sure, but I'm looking for thoughts and opinions.

The new 650 would be lighter by 30lbs. Cheaper to insure by a few hundred dollars a year. The throttle-assist feature might take care of the snatchy throttle off-road. I think the seat is better. It now has a power outlet on the dash, which I use. Owners love them for years. It would be cheaper to buy. However, will I miss the power and suspension of the 1000??

The new 1000 also has the throttle-assist and better seat (so they say) but also cornering abs. It would be just as heavy as my current bike and just as costly to insure, but I'd keep the power and susp. A bunch of my parts would transfer over.

Both have the option of the fancy gold wire wheels, though I'm on the fence about them. I'm told that we're getting a 3-year warranty on the new bikes in Canada. (don't know about the US)

The other bike I'm looking hard at is.... the 1200GS. Yes, it's terribly expensive, but this will probably be my last big bike. It's very complicated and if there were glitches it would drive me crazy, but all the electronics are supposed to make for an awesome bike. Lower CoG. Good warranty. Expensive insurance and accessories. Do I want to be a GS guy?? I've ridden a couple and love the drivetrain. Amazing. But I need more seat time to form an opinion about the suspension.

So there ya go! Feel free to share any thoughts. Thanks!

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You don't like the Vee, so that's out. The Wee probably won't satisfy your need for power and you'll constantly be comparing it to the Vee, so that's out. Since you didn't mention any price or budget constraints, the choice is pretty clear--the GS.

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I agree with Satch; however, specifically what is the purpose of use?

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BMW dealers usually have demo bikes, ride one, see how you like it.

That being said, you could buy a Russell seat, a dynojet/tune, throttle tamer, and a new DL650 for what your buy-in cost on a new 1200GS would be.

You can't tell the long-term comfort of a seat for you by sitting on a bike in the showroom or reading reviews. But it seems for Corbin's, most people either love em or hate em. Very very few complaints (if any?) about Russell or Terry Adox seats. The cost difference between selling your Corbin and buying a custom seat built for YOU would probably be less than the cost of registering a new bike. And isn't there a recall for the 14+ throttle snatchiness?
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I swapped bikes briefly with a R1200GS-riding friend during a trip recently. It made my '06 650 strom feel like junk, and I have no doubt that it could cross the continent in nearly perfect comfort.

I might consider owning one if I had the money, but after hearing how BMW and its dealers treat their customers, I'm not sure I can support them. When they break, they break hard. A different GSA riding friend lost his rear final drive due to dealer negligence, and they made him foot the $3,000+ bill. Later on he had a rear main seal leak, which was another few grand worth of labor. BMW may lead in performance, bells and whistles, rider comfort, but they don't lead in part quality or reliability. For the sort of riding I do (daily commuting and infrequent, long distance trips) I can't afford to ride a bike that I can't fix at the curb, and the vstrom delivers there.

It sounds like your use case is a little different.
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Look hard at a Tenere or a Tiger Explorer 1200.......just sayin.

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Look hard at a Tenere or a Tiger Explorer 1200.......just sayin.
Both have stock cruise control...
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And ESA too, plus that Tiger has one bad ass BIG triple!!!
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Satch, I'm not happy with the current V, but the improvements to the "2018" might solve that...have to wait and see.

pollack, I use my bike for travel, touring, camping for a week at at time, day trips, bits of off-road. Not for commuting.

MattR302, I'm not aware of the recall, if there is one. My dealer certainly isn't telling me about it and I've complained to them. On your other points, I hate pouring money into a bike to make it right. It should come that way from the factory.

Fox, those are the kinds of horror stories that scare me about the BMW. Don't hear them about Suzuki's!

Big B, didn't like the Super Ten. Very heavy and just didn't dig the feel. Haven't tried the Triumph. I am a fan of their smaller bikes (maybe I should ride a Tiger again) but the 1200 is a porker, I think.

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Again I don't think you will be happy with a 650; however, I may be wrong. If I were going to get something for multi-day touring it would probably be Versys 1K.

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