New problems for 07

[handyhiker]

I have my new 07 bike with less than 500 miles at the dealer to get repaired because of a bad stumble/miss/cough. The bike is at times unridable under 4000 RPM. The bike has been there now for three days. They have been on the phone to Suzuki at least twice so far and sounds like they will be again. So far, they changed the fuel in the tank, checked the TPS and TBS. They are also or have done a throttle cable sinc. Accordind to Suzuki, the problem with the 05 and 06 ECM's has been fixed for 07 and this should not be a problem. The tech told me that Suzuki has a problem with the TPS and the TBS for 07. All I know is I bought a new bike and now can't ride it.:mad: :mad:

Why does this kind of sh?? always happen to me:confused:

[Compared To What?]

Sad to hear that after all these years the in 07 Suzuki still hasn't solved the number 1 "Liter Bike Issue".

Try a 6Fiddy......ZERO Issues!:)

[Fletchstrom]

So far, the only issue that I have had is a bad seal behind the front sprocket. My bike coughs & dies every once in a while. It could be worse. You could have bought a Buell Ulysses. The one i test rode before buying the strom coughed and died about everytime i tried to get on it hard from a dead stop. Hope you get your V back soon.

[Big B]

I feel that they are feeding you a line of crap, and I don't buy it for 1 second.:rolleyes: This is the same basic unchanged engine since 02, and all they have done every year, is make it run more lean. There are no gremlins and bugs in this engine or the fuel injection system. This is not a new engine, and they have changed very little if "anything" since it debuted. I'll bet you that your bike is still parked right where they pulled it in at, and they are leading you to believe that they are working on it. A dealer shouldn't need to keep a bike for more than 2 days for any issue or repair. All they freakin need to do is make sure your TB's and TPS are adjusted, fatten up the FI system with a Yosh....or put in a freakin PCIII or TFI/DFO box.

You should be out riding your bike right now!!!!!! Pick your bike up and ride it down to Columbus, I'll tune it up, then take it to my dealer for the Yosh treatment. You'll love me for it!!!!!!;)

[GONE14S]

I feel that they are feeding you a line of crap, and I don't buy it for 1 second.:rolleyes: This is the same basic unchanged engine since 02, and all they have done every year, is make it run more lean. There are no gremlins and bugs in this engine or the fuel injection system. This is not a new engine, and they have changed very little if "anything" since it debuted. I'll bet you that your bike is still parked right where they pulled it in at, and they are leading you to believe that they are working on it. A dealer shouldn't need to keep a bike for more than 2 days for any issue or repair. All they freakin need to do is make sure your TB's and TPS are adjusted, fatten up the FI system with a Yosh....or put in a freakin PCIII or TFI/DFO box.

You should be out riding your bike right now!!!!!! Pick your bike up and ride it down to Columbus, I'll tune it up, then take it to my dealer for the Yosh treatment. You'll love me for it!!!!!!;)

I don't even know Big B and I like his attitude...........:)

Kurt

[MonkeyGrass]

...Pick your bike up and ride it down to Columbus, I'll tune it up, then take it to my dealer for the Yosh treatment. You'll love me for it!!!!!!;)

Look up Stromtrooper in the dictionary and there is BigB's avatar :cool: That's what this place is all about.

You guys are the best.

Oh and BTW - B is right. If you are able to take him up on his offer, do it. I've done the same for 2 fellow strommers who were on the verge of selling their bikes b/c of this same problem. This isn't a new issue. The song remains the same. Yosh, DFI, PCIII. I'd pull the secondaries while I was at it. But that's just me! :twisted:

He'll give it some fuel - and then hold on. Good luck removing the perma-grin from your face afterwards. :mrgreen:

[BC-Bruce]

Try a 6Fiddy......ZERO Issues!:)

Here is a lady on a 650 sounds like the same problem - wiring harness?

Thread:

http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7010

Problem diagnosis:

http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showpost.php?p=64561&postcount=44

And another gratuitous 650 problem

http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8011

Hope that helps...

- BCB

[Compared To What?]

Problems yes..........

an "issue"?

Not yet!

[NYrider67]

I got to say, not to belittle anything in this post, that I do not think the problems experienced with the DL1000 is accross the board. I have had my 06 DL1000 since April and have 7500 miles without a single issue. The engine runs like a top and accelerates smootly through the RPM range. I have never experinced a cough or miss. It is completely stock with a only the addition of the heated grips.

I don't baby it either. I just changed my rear tire at 7000 miles. Last weekend I did about 150 miles of twisties with a bunch of crotch rockets and they were shocked by it's acceleration and ability to keep up and even out do the 750's. The best part was the look on their face when I took a unexpected right turn accross a picnic area and down a path. One tried to follow, but quit after a hundred yards.

I hope your problem is solved soon with a reasonable outcome.

[MonkeyGrass]

Sad to hear that after all these years the in 07 Suzuki still hasn't solved the number 1 "Liter Bike Issue".

Try a 6Fiddy......ZERO Issues!:)

Sorry, but isn't this the DL1000 forum? :confused: Not trying to be a smartass, but that type of typical 650 comment is PRECISELY the reason we asked for our own forum. To get away from this kind of cr@p.

There's no need for it, CTW?. It's not helpful to anyone involved in the thread, it's not on-topic or relevant at all to trying to help a new 1k owner get his stumble fixed. I'm pretty sure we 1k'ers got this one handled. Like mom said "If you don't have anything nice to say.... ETC!" :mad:

Or perhaps we should start throwing totally irrelevant comments into Wee threads. Stuff like:

Try a 1k......REAL horsepower :mrgreen:

maybe

Try a 1k.....if you want MPG, get a Vespa ;)

or

Try a 1k.....Because who wants to be a WeeNee anyway :twisted:

Get my point? :rolleyes:

Now I'm not trying to hijack my man's thread here. But let's be adult about this, shall we? Can we get away from the stupid nit-picking "my bike is better than your because XXX reason"? It's lame. Especially in our sub-forum. We really leave you guys alone in yours. A little of the same respect & consideration would go a long way, IMO.

[MightyShep]

Sorry, but isn't this the DL1000 forum? :confused: Not trying to be a smartass, but that type of typical 650 comment is PRECISELY the reason we asked for our own forum. To get away from this kind of cr@p.

There's no need for it, CTW?. It's not helpful to anyone involved in the thread, it's not on-topic or relevant at all to trying to help a new 1k owner get his stumble fixed. I'm pretty sure we 1k'ers got this one handled. Like mom said "If you don't have anything nice to say.... ETC!" :mad:

Or perhaps we should start throwing totally irrelevant comments into Wee threads. Stuff like:

Try a 1k......REAL horsepower :mrgreen:

maybe

Try a 1k.....if you want MPG, get a Vespa ;)

or

Try a 1k.....Because who wants to be a WeeNee anyway :twisted:

Get my point? :rolleyes:

Now I'm not trying to hijack my man's thread here. But let's be adult about this, shall we? Can we get away from the stupid nit-picking "my bike is better than your because XXX reason"? It's lame. Especially in our sub-forum. We really leave you guys alone in yours. A little of the same respect & consideration would go a long way, IMO.


+1 For my man MonkeyGrass. Why is it always the puny guy that starts the fight?

[Big B]

I got to say, not to belittle anything in this post, that I do not think the problems experienced with the DL1000 is accross the board. I have had my 06 DL1000 since April and have 7500 miles without a single issue. The engine runs like a top and accelerates smootly through the RPM range. I have never experinced a cough or miss. It is completely stock with a only the addition of the heated grips.

I don't baby it either. I just changed my rear tire at 7000 miles. Last weekend I did about 150 miles of twisties with a bunch of crotch rockets and they were shocked by it's acceleration and ability to keep up and even out do the 750's. The best part was the look on their face when I took a unexpected right turn accross a picnic area and down a path. One tried to follow, but quit after a hundred yards.

I hope your problem is solved soon with a reasonable outcome.

A very high percentage of 1000 models have this issue, and it isn't BS.;) Many feel that it is pretty much an "across the board issue". You are lucky, but you also have an 06 model which allot of people don't have yet. Sounds like you got one of the good ones.:cool: The models from 02 to 05 are the majority of bikes that are on the road, and are the VAST amount of bikes sold. There really hasn't been enough 06/07 model Stroms sold yet, to say that "hey the issue is fixed"! There has been already enough 06/07 models with this issue in my opinion, to believe that it isn't resolved and it won't be.

I am very pleased with how mine runs "now", but it always wasn't that way. It is truly a great bike, once things are dialed in right.

[NYrider67]

As I said before I certainly do not want to belittle a problem, and I would never call it BS. I understand it and hope it is remedied. I am just raising the question: If this is a programming issue, then we would see it everywhere, or maybe only under certain conditions like cold climate or altitude. I am sure they put the same program version in every bike that leaves the line for a given run. Also that the programming would get better as it matures, except for the new bugs that get introduced while fixing the old ones. So I can see the 06's and 07's both being better programmed and also having new and different issues, but to have one stand out as working well and all the others having to be reprogrammed. That doesn't stand well with a software developer, so I have to dig deeper. I guess I shouldn't highjack this thread, so I will keep my mouth shut or maybe open up a new one.

[WeThereYet]

As I said before I certainly do not want to belittle a problem, and I would never call it BS. I understand it and hope it is remedied. I am just raising the question: If this is a programming issue, then we would see it everywhere, or maybe only under certain conditions like cold climate or altitude. I am sure they put the same program version in every bike that leaves the line for a given run. Also that the programming would get better as it matures, except for the new bugs that get introduced while fixing the old ones. So I can see the 06's and 07's both being better programmed and also having new and different issues, but to have one stand out as working well and all the others having to be reprogrammed. That doesn't stand well with a software developer, so I have to dig deeper. I guess I shouldn't highjack this thread, so I will keep my mouth shut or maybe open up a new one.

NYrider67, enjoy your bike. You are not alone!

[Compared To What?]

Sorry, but isn't this the DL1000 forum? :confused: Not trying to be a smartass, but that type of typical 650 comment is PRECISELY the reason we asked for our own forum. To get away from this kind of cr@p.

There's no need for it, CTW?. It's not helpful to anyone involved in the thread, it's not on-topic or relevant at all to trying to help a new 1k owner get his stumble fixed. I'm pretty sure we 1k'ers got this one handled. Like mom said "If you don't have anything nice to say.... ETC!" :mad:

Or perhaps we should start throwing totally irrelevant comments into Wee threads. Stuff like:

Try a 1k......REAL horsepower :mrgreen:

maybe

Try a 1k.....if you want MPG, get a Vespa ;)

or

Try a 1k.....Because who wants to be a WeeNee anyway :twisted:

Get my point? :rolleyes:

Now I'm not trying to hijack my man's thread here. But let's be adult about this, shall we? Can we get away from the stupid nit-picking "my bike is better than your because XXX reason"? It's lame. Especially in our sub-forum. We really leave you guys alone in yours. A little of the same respect & consideration would go a long way, IMO.

No I don't get your "point"!

I made a simple comment "Sad to hear that after all these years the in 07 Suzuki still hasn't solved the number 1 "Liter Bike Issue".

It is sad. . . . . Suzuki has had all these years to resolve this (and some others) ongoing issue and they haven't done SQUAT to address it.

A. It wasn't a 650 comment, it was a Suzuki hasn't fixed the problem "comment".

b. You seem a little thin-skinned.

c. "There's no need for it, CTW?" Yes there is.......Suzuki should have addressed the "issue" years ago shouldn't they?

d. "It's not helpful to anyone involved in the thread," BullSh1t, how do you know this "fact"? Answer is you don't, you're just a little too touchy!

e. "it's not on-topic or relevant at all to trying to help a new 1k owner get his stumble fixed." BS Again, Any new owner should keep hounding Suzuki to get this issue resolved, PERIOD!

f. I'm pretty sure we 1k'ers got this one handled. Like mom said "If you don't have anything nice to say.... ETC!" Like I said twice before. . . You seem a bit on the thin-skinned side. btw my "Mom" always said tell it like it is!

g. Now I'm not trying to hijack my man's thread here. But let's be adult about this, shall we? I Agree, adult-like behaviour includes not being so thin-skinned!

h. Can we get away from the stupid nit-picking "my bike is better than your because XXX reason"? Nice "Straw-Man".......Where in my post did I say "my bike is better than your because XXX reason"??????????

i. It's lame. Especially in our sub-forum. We really leave you guys alone in yours. A little of the same respect & consideration would go a long way, IMO. What's lame is the way you have managed to try and put words in my mouth and make this something that it isn't. RE-READ the post.......
I made a simple comment "Sad to hear that after all these years the in 07 Suzuki still hasn't solved the number 1 "Liter Bike Issue". And I stand by it. I might have opted for a liter bike had (in 04) Suzuki done anything to address this and other liter bike issues but they hadn't and that continues to be the case! Tell me where I'm wrong!

+1 For my man MonkeyGrass. Why is it always the puny guy that starts the fight?

And you get my vote for the number two guy that didn't actually read what I said..........(and finds he has to lower himself to name calling!)

[WeThereYet]

Sad to hear that after all these years the in 07 Suzuki still hasn't solved the number 1 "Liter Bike Issue".

Try a 6Fiddy......ZERO Issues!:)

CTW

I don't really think anyone took issue with you first line. MAYBE it was the second one? :confused: I also was trying to figure out how that one was helping handyhiker.

I stand by my belief that with the symptoms of being completely unrideable under 4000 rpm, that his 07 is an anomaly and there is a serious undetected problem. Could it use more fuel, probably over the whole range, but that is for him to decide based on the kind of riding he wants to do. But for the bike to be totally "unrideable", either he has exagerated this condition or this bike is a freak which needs to be diagnosed and fixed. Get it back to the baseline and if he wants an upgrade, it's his dime.

Disclaimer: Again I wade into this s-pile, after vowing to myself I wouldn't. This my opinion and mine alone. And that combined with 1$ still won't buy a cup of coffee.

[My Strom]

Ya"ll get along now! I hate it when the family fights.

My 06 DL 1000 has had no problems yet. 4135 miles

Mystrom

[MightyShep]

Sad to hear that after all these years the in 07 Suzuki still hasn't solved the number 1 "Liter Bike Issue".

Try a 6Fiddy......ZERO Issues!:)


Come on down off the Cross CTW. You knew (or should have known) that making a comment like Try a 6fiddy... Zero issues (snickers) in the DL1000 forum is a fight starter. Cut out the nonsense it is not helping anything.

[Compared To What?]

CTW

I don't really think anyone took issue with you first line. MAYBE it was the second one? :confused: I also was trying to figure out how that one was helping handyhiker.

It wasn't, it was a simple statement of fact......What I didn't take into account was "skin-thickness" of other readers. My bad.

When I was making my "purchase decision" I spent a long long time looking on the various forums for resolution to this (and other) issues. My definition of an issue is something that detracts from the day-in and day-out riding of the bike that the manufacturer should have fixed from day one. The clutch basket/chudder is (imo) was the other issue that tipped the scales for the smaller displacement Strom. One of these days I'll find a beat-to-chit or crashed liter bike that I can stash in the garage and "play with".


I stand by my belief that with the symptoms of being completely unrideable under 4000 rpm, that his 07 is an anomaly and there is a serious undetected problem. Could it use more fuel, probably over the whole range, but that is for him to decide based on the kind of riding he wants to do. But for the bike to be totally "unrideable", either he has exagerated this condition or this bike is a freak which needs to be diagnosed and fixed. Get it back to the baseline and if he wants an upgrade, it's his dime.

Disclaimer: Again I wade into this s-pile, after vowing to myself I wouldn't. This my opinion and mine alone. And that combined with 1$ still won't buy a cup of coffee.

I agree. . .all the more reason to "go after" A. the dealer and B. Suzuki. It becomes a safety issue for the rider.

[Compared To What?]

Come on down off the Cross CTW. You knew (or should have known) that making a comment like Try a 6fiddy... Zero issues (snickers) in the DL1000 forum is a fight starter. Cut out the nonsense it is not helping anything.

What no name calling this time around ???

The "snickers" is your invention, not mine. And the statements were fact not fiction or as you seem to have mystically divined "friction".

[MonkeyGrass]

It wasn't, it was a simple statement of fact......What I didn't take into account was "skin-thickness" of other readers. My bad.

Seriously man - get over yourself. You come walking into the DL1000 SPECIFIC forum, and start dropping comments like that? You knew darn well what kind of reaction you were gonna get. Then you call me "thin-skinned" for asking you avoid posting that nonsense over here. :???: Nice! I wasn't looking for a debate. I care not to play semantics games with you. Your intent was blatantly obvious to everyone.

Look for a pissing contest elsewhere. And maybe stick to the "WeeStrom" forum and post your glib comments over there. Meanwhile, we'll get our guy fixed up and running properly, without your useless remarks. Just like we've done for DOZENS of other 1k'ers. With the same issue! :o Maybe we know a thing or two about this? Stranger things have happened...

And with all due respect, as much as we appreciate your speculations on what could be wrong with a model bike you do not own, nor at any time in the past have owned - I think those of us who actually RIDE THE 1K might be better suited to diagnosing the problem at hand.

[Compared To What?]

Seriously man - get over yourself.


Seriously man....Get a grip!

You come walking into the DL1000 SPECIFIC forum, and start dropping comments like that?

They weren't "comments"........They were facts.

You knew darn well what kind of reaction you were gonna get. Then you call me "thin-skinned" for asking you avoid posting that nonsense over here.

Not "comments" or "nonsense" as you have attempted to label my statements......and you didn't ask me anything.....Instead you chose to "interpret" my statements in a less than fasvorable (to you) way.


:???: Nice! I wasn't looking for a debate. I care not to play semantics games with you. Your intent was blatantly obvious to everyone.

Nor I you.........What is obvious is that you seem to have a "problem".

Look for a pissing contest elsewhere. And maybe stick to the "WeeStrom" forum and post your glib comments over there.

It appears (to me) that the only person that wants to get in a "contest" is you......and your ego.

Meanwhile, we'll get our guy fixed up and running properly, without your useless remarks. Just like we've done for DOZENS of other 1k'ers. With the same issue! :o Maybe we know a thing or two about this? Stranger things have happened...

"our guy". . . . . ."useless remarks". . . . . . . You certainly sound like a person with an "issue" or a penchant for making something out of nothing. I joined this forum (and others) because of the common V Strom interest (psst that doens't mean just liter bikes or 650s) It means V Stroms

And with all due respect, as much as we appreciate your speculations on what could be wrong with a model bike you do not own, nor at any time in the past have owned - I think those of us who actually RIDE THE 1K might be better suited to diagnosing the problem at hand.


Read this very carefully. . . . .

a. I didn't "speculate on what could be wrong" or did you (as it appears) read something into my post that wasn't there?

b. There are "those of us" that have ridden both "sizes" of the V Strom. If I felt I had something to suggest as a cure I would have offered it up.

c. For the last time....I made 2 statements, both facts. Not fiction, not something more or less than facts.

[Big B]

Well.....I go to work today and BOOM a big piss bomb went off!!!:mrgreen: Seriously...CTW has the right to venture over here, just like myself and "other" 1000 owners venture to the Wee section. I took his comment as tounge and cheek, and knew what he was doing!;) He is not looking to start trouble, but he DID venture into the snake pit.

Lets all be cool, and let this go OK!!!!

I agree that this topic gets beat to death...but I just can't help myself when it comes to helping people fix their litre machine. This IS a Suzuki issue more than a dealer issue. Dealers don't want to be bothered or usually "admit" to this nuisance, so it is up to us to fix it. Suzuki hasn't really tried very hard to resolve this problem....and that plain sucks.:twisted: The 1000 is such a damn sweet bike, and this little poo poo issue usually attracts more attention then it should. Seriously...what else is really an issue with this bike? I agree that the "unrideable" comment might have been blown out of proportion...but that is how he perceives it.

BB

[MightyShep]

Brian,

Can you post the Yosh settings that you have on your bike ( you too MonkeyGrass). And can you do it in such a manner that anyone can take their bike to a shop with a Yosh Box and say " Do this, this, and this to my bike? Maybe then we can just send people with this problem to that post. Or better still start a new post with Yosh setting.

[WeThereYet]

A PISS BOMB? Now that's funny! Nasty, but funny! http://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/lol8.gif

[Big B]

Brian,

Can you post the Yosh settings that you have on your bike ( you too MonkeyGrass). And can you do it in such a manner that anyone can take their bike to a shop with a Yosh Box and say " Do this, this, and this to my bike? Maybe then we can just send people with this problem to that post. Or better still start a new post with Yosh setting.


Hey Shep.....I had them do 1.5% at idle, and 5% at BOTH low and mid rev ranges. But.....I knew that I was getting a new exhaust system, so I told them to go a bit rich. If you are keeping the stock cans, I would say 1.5% to 2% for the idle circuit, and leave the rest alone.

[Langly]

I have my new 07 bike with less than 500 miles at the dealer to get repaired because of a bad stumble/miss/cough. The bike is at times unridable under 4000 RPM. The bike has been there now for three days. They have been on the phone to Suzuki at least twice so far and sounds like they will be again. So far, they changed the fuel in the tank, checked the TPS and TBS. They are also or have done a throttle cable sinc. Accordind to Suzuki, the problem with the 05 and 06 ECM's has been fixed for 07 and this should not be a problem. The tech told me that Suzuki has a problem with the TPS and the TBS for 07. All I know is I bought a new bike and now can't ride it.:mad: :mad:

Why does this kind of sh?? always happen to me:confused:

My K6 did the same things. Basically ran like crap under 4k. 4k to redline perfect. Dealer quoted the same lines of bull. My dealer was clueless or inept whichever. Get on the Yosh list, Yosh the ECM and engine will be perfect.

[handyhiker]

I did not mean to start a war in the group with my post. I know that this issue has been covered before and I guess I just wanted to let everyone know that it is still an issue with the 07s. But anyhow, I will be picking my bike up tomarrow, fixed or not since the dealer has had it now for a week. With the warrenty I thought I would take it back to the dealer and have them fix it. Guess I should have just asked for advice from the group and done it myself. And this is just my .02, I was not offended or pissed about the coments made by CTW. I think it is a good thing to have a bike that you are proud of and brag about. I don't feel he put down anybody or the 1000. He just stated he has no problems with his 650. Like I said, this is just my .02.

[STROMETTE]

I have my new 07 bike with less than 500 miles at the dealer to get repaired because of a bad stumble/miss/cough. The bike is at times unridable under 4000 RPM. The bike has been there now for three days. They have been on the phone to Suzuki at least twice so far and sounds like they will be again. So far, they changed the fuel in the tank, checked the TPS and TBS. They are also or have done a throttle cable sinc. Accordind to Suzuki, the problem with the 05 and 06 ECM's has been fixed for 07 and this should not be a problem. The tech told me that Suzuki has a problem with the TPS and the TBS for 07. All I know is I bought a new bike and now can't ride it.:mad: :mad:

Why does this kind of sh?? always happen to me:confused:

Handyhiker,

First and foremost, I'm saddened to hear of your issues w/your new 07 bike. :( I'm sure you want to be out riding, not dealing w/probems, much less disabling ones. The stumble/cough/hiccup that many DL1k owners experience has varying responses for "fixes" all of which have been discussed to the point of delirium on this board it seems. Unfortunately, there is not a cut and dry fix or we'd all done the same darn thing, called it a day, then gone riding!;) I'd personally ask what experience the techs have w/this issues that are working on your bike. If it's not something like "so much so we can do it in our sleep" then find someone who does. It will save you a lot of headache, cussing, etc. If BigB is willing to help then by all means jump on that opportunity. I wish you the very best in finding resolution and SOON.

Secondly, I'm very sorry to see that the vast number of responses to your posting are not helpful and simply ridiculous IMHO. Guys, FWIW, I believe this whole 1000/650 thing has effected the Stromtrooper spirit over the last year. I for one have less desire to participate in a community that has such reactive off-topic responses to a member's post.

Stromette

[BumbleBee]

Handy,
I'm sorry to here that you have the dreaded "sputter", that many of us 1k owners have had to deal with. And I'm really sorry that your dealer seems to be unable to fix the problem. With the bike being new and all, it's important that a warranty claim be filed to Suzuki to start tracking the problem. That being said, the GOOD NEWS! is that you have a great bike and it is VERY fixable. Thanks to forums like this and others the answers you seek have been found and there are SEVERAL good fixes out there.

the best senerio is that you find a dealer familar with the strom and have it yoshed under warranty. if that isn't an option then get on the "yosh" box loaner list on the other forum and do it yourself. the next couple of options are going to cost you between $200-$300 bucks depending on with way you go. A Techlusion (TFI) or a powercommander III (PCIII). either one will get the job done.

I went with the pcIII only because I got a good deal on a used one from another strommer. Also I'm 80+ miles from my nearest dealer so I like having the ability to make my own adjustments. Good Luck! and keep us posted.

Keep the shiney side up! Tom

[MightyShep]

Hey Shep.....I had them do 1.5% at idle, and 5% at BOTH low and mid rev ranges. But.....I knew that I was getting a new exhaust system, so I told them to go a bit rich. If you are keeping the stock cans, I would say 1.5% to 2% for the idle circuit, and leave the rest alone.


Thanks B! I am really considering the Techlusion DFO, and will probably install it before spring.

Handyhiker I truly believe that your issue is related to the very lean settings in the low end of the FI system. These bikes come from the factory leaned out to meet emission specs. Sometimes they are too lean and the stumble that you are encountering occurs. Like previous posters have said get the FI system Yosh'ed or install a Digital Fuel Optimizer to correct this problem. I agree that it is sad that the problem cannot be corrected by Suzuki, but we do what we have to do. Yosh upgrades are, from what I understand, really cheap, the DFO's are a little more expensive. Do what you think is best. But don't give up on the bike. The Strom is a solid machine with very little in the way of issues. Solve this one and the only future changes you'll make will be because you want to, not because you have to.

On the Urinary Olympiad I am in agreement with Stromette. We should (myself included) endeavor to be inclusive to our fellow Strommers. Even if they pour salt in an open wound so to speak. Shame on You... Live and Let Live...Can't We All Just Get Along...Turn the Other Cheek...Early to Bed Early to Rise...Give Peace a Chance...Make War Not Love...We'll Be Greated As Liberators...Mission Accomplished...An Eye for an Eye...err strike that last one :mrgreen:

[handyhiker]

I picked up my bike from the dealer today and just got it home. I don't know if I will get a chance to ride it today or not because of work. They said that they did a TBS and a TPS. When I get a chance to ride I will post results. Of coarse the weather has now turned and the high this week is the low 30s. I don't know if the cold will make the bike run different or close to what it did before.

Big B, I will let you know and if need be make arrangments with you to get down there and show me how to make this thing run right. Thanks for the offer!!

[MonkeyGrass]

CTW - you are so right. Your insightful comment of "try a 650... ZERO issues :D" was clearly what turned handyhiker's problem around. Thanks for your help. Don't know what he'd have done without you. I apologize for taking your comment out of context, since clearly you were trying to assist with the problem at hand.

Keep up the good work buddy!!! :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:


* Is that better, guys? More peaceful, like? :rolleyes:

[MonkeyGrass]

Just for reference, my Yosh settings are:

+ 2 @ idle circuit
+ 5 low range

The rest is unchanged. Even with stock pipes, I found the extra 5% on low range cleared up any remaining "transition stumbles" in the mid-3000's as the bike transitions from idles to low range Fuel Mapping. I'm a touch rich, but better slightly rich than lean. + 2.5 would have been my ideal setting on low range, but the Yosh box doesn't allow that type of incremental setting. I will likely end up getting a DFI somewhere down the road to clean that up a bit and regain a couple MPG.

[Big B]

Just for reference, my Yosh settings are:

+ 2 @ idle circuit
+ 5 low range

The rest is unchanged. Even with stock pipes, I found the extra 5% on low range cleared up any remaining "transition stumbles" in the mid-3000's as the bike transitions from idles to low range Fuel Mapping. I'm a touch rich, but better slightly rich than lean. + 2.5 would have been my ideal setting on low range, but the Yosh box doesn't allow that type of incremental setting. I will likely end up getting a DFI somewhere down the road to clean that up a bit and regain a couple MPG.

Yes...I agree that is also a very good setting. Throw in a K&N filter, and you would probably have a near perfect mixture.

[Darkwing]

16,600 miles so far, smiles on every ride. Ditto on keeping up with the sporty youngsters in the twisties! And the option of tearing through the boonies and frightening the livestock and wildlife is big fun!!!
All I've done is reccommended maint., richened it a bit with 'the box', and a new rear trailwing.
Darkwing
SoCenTx

[Big B]

I picked up my bike from the dealer today and just got it home. I don't know if I will get a chance to ride it today or not because of work. They said that they did a TBS and a TPS. When I get a chance to ride I will post results. Of coarse the weather has now turned and the high this week is the low 30s. I don't know if the cold will make the bike run different or close to what it did before.

Big B, I will let you know and if need be make arrangments with you to get down there and show me how to make this thing run right. Thanks for the offer!!

Your bike should run better in cooler temps, makes it run a tad bit richer.
Did they not have a YOSH box? If not, that really surprises me!:o If they "actually" did a TBS synch, then you are heading in the right direction. A Yosh box adjustment is just what needs to occur next. Have you tried asking about the Yosh? If they don't have one.....I would call around to all the Suzuki dealers until I found one. My dealer DOES have one, but it would be quite the haul for you to come here.

The VStrom rapid forum is loaning one out....have you heard of this before? Many have used this unit, all you need to do is pay for shipping to the next person. Many a 1000 owner have been made very happy when they get their hands on this magic box. This coud also be an option for you.

http://11109.rapidforum.com/topic=104777458831&search=yosh

[MonkeyGrass]

Yes...I agree that is also a very good setting. Throw in a K&N filter, and you would probably have a near perfect mixture.

I actually cut the paper element out of my old OEM filter, I'm going to buy two squares of UNI foam and make my own homeade "K&N" for about $14 - one of the reasons I'm cool with being a touch rich in the meantime. I'll be posting a pics and How-to thread on the process once I get it done.

Priority has been the MasterMike spacers, new cush rubbers and sprockets. Once I get my final drive squared away, I'll pull the tank over the winter and make my foam filter. I need to make the 'pre-screen' over the intake snorkels before I do it, tho..

[MonkeyGrass]

The VStrom rapid forum is loaning one out....have you heard of this before? Many have used this unit, all you need to do is pay for shipping to the next person. Many a 1000 owner have been made very happy when they get their hands on this magic box. This coud also be an option for you.

http://11109.rapidforum.com/topic=104777458831&search=yosh

I *HIGHLY* recommend this option. Cost is about $12 to ship to the next person on the list. I used it myself to tweak last summer. Don't worry about using the box yourself. It's a snap. And it comes with all the instructions you'll need. If you get on the list now, you will probably get the box during the winter - perfect time to tinker!! :mrgreen:

[handyhiker]

I picked up my bike from the dealer as I stated in my previous post. Had to go to work for a while after I got home. When I got home I could not wait, so I dressed warm and took the bike for a ride. All I can say is WOW!! If all the dealer did was what they said, than the ECM issues are fixed for 07! They did a TBS and TPS. The bike runs like a totaly different machine. I did about 30 miles as the temp is now around 29 Degrees. The bike never had a cough or a sputter. I could run the bike at 40MPH and 2000 RPM on the flat and not a sputter!:D I ran the bike over the same areas where I had problems before and not a single issue. Even at 65 to 70 MPH and in O/D, Tach at 3500, Smoooooth as glass. I can not say for sure, but maybe Zuk has the fuel problem figured out and the problem was the TBS and TPS. All I know is the bike went from a pain in the a$$ to ride to a joy with that grin factor I keep hearing about.:mrgreen:

Now a question:confused: The dealer drained my gas an put in 93 octane. Does the higher octane make the bike run better or worse in the cold??? I have read several places that you should use 87 and not the high octane. Will the bike run better if I put 87 in or should I stick with the 93??

[greywolf]

Use what it says in the manual. That is what the bike is timed for. If that causes pinging, you can go up a grade. The best octane is the lowest that doesn't cause pinging.

[WeThereYet]

Hey handyhiker. Thanks for the update. Good news! Hmmmmmm! http://www.islandriders.ca/forum/images/smilies/thumbup.gif (http://www.islandriders.ca/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=0&forumid=14#)

[Big B]

That is awesome news Handyhiker, I had a feeling that you would take her for a spin!;) Yes...a proper TBS and TPS adjustment can sometimes make a big difference. The TRUE test will be how it runs when the weather heats up. Now go rack up some more miles on that bike.....we Buckeyes know that the weather is unpredictable in this state. IMHO, I would still get on the Yosh loan list and give it a bit more fuel. Trust me, it will run even better ALL THE TIME.

BB

[GreatWhiteHunter]

My '06 hasn't been the best of the bunch in this department but it certainly wasn't that bad, in my estimation, but I did have the dealer look into what could be done about making it a little smoother under 4k. At the first service, 600 miles, they rechecked all the EFI stuff (TPS, TB Synch and throttle cables) and put the Yosh box on it and richened it up a bit. All the Yosh did for it was decrease my fuel mileage, substantially. I rode it through to the 3500 mile service just to make sure it wasn't just me and they did it all again, this time resetting the EFI back to stock and ordering me a new ECM under warranty. The ECM came in about a week after I got my bike back from that second service so I stopped in, they changed it out and it was like magic. I've only put about 500 miles on since the swap but WOW, what a change. I can run under 4k even 2 up with no chugging, burping or stalling! AND my fuel mileage has returned to nearly what I had when it was new.

I don't know how this helps but it is worth saying that there is something to this thing that Suzuki knows and isn't doing that much to cure this out of the box. At least they cover the owners when they complain enough. You do need a good dealer however,I'm lucky there I guess. Mine has been phenomenal, doing much out of his own pocket to ensure my happiness.

[handyhiker]

I would still get on the Yosh loan list and give it a bit more fuel. Trust me, it will run even better ALL THE TIME.

BB

I will get on the list but will wait till spring. Even if it takes a while to get it, the bike now runs very good!! I think it would be too hard to test drive and fine tune in the snow. :cry:
The other thing that I did, I went ahead and removed the secondaries and installed the vacuum hoses to do the future TBS's. I was waiting for it to warm up a little this morning before I took it out for another ride and figured it was as good as time as any. The dealer did set the TBS because they must have lost one of the vacuum caps. They installed a used one that looked like it was in somebodys tool box for a while. Also it was too large and they had to put a clamp around it.
The bike now runs super and I believe that the removal of the secondaries actually made the bike smoother at low RPM's and seems to be a smoother throttle response when you roll it on. Doesn't have that light switch feel anymore. I am very happy with the way the bike runs now and wish that the dealer would have kept me more informed on the progress. Also the fact that they had it a week erks me! :mad: I wish I could have ridden more but the temp is 33 degrees F and I just got cold after 1 1/2 hours. I was able to put on around 100 miles the last two days though.:D

[Big B]

My '06 hasn't been the best of the bunch in this department but it certainly wasn't that bad, in my estimation, but I did have the dealer look into what could be done about making it a little smoother under 4k. At the first service, 600 miles, they rechecked all the EFI stuff (TPS, TB Synch and throttle cables) and put the Yosh box on it and richened it up a bit. All the Yosh did for it was decrease my fuel mileage, substantially. I rode it through to the 3500 mile service just to make sure it wasn't just me and they did it all again, this time resetting the EFI back to stock and ordering me a new ECM under warranty. The ECM came in about a week after I got my bike back from that second service so I stopped in, they changed it out and it was like magic. I've only put about 500 miles on since the swap but WOW, what a change. I can run under 4k even 2 up with no chugging, burping or stalling! AND my fuel mileage has returned to nearly what I had when it was new.

I don't know how this helps but it is worth saying that there is something to this thing that Suzuki knows and isn't doing that much to cure this out of the box. At least they cover the owners when they complain enough. You do need a good dealer however,I'm lucky there I guess. Mine has been phenomenal, doing much out of his own pocket to ensure my happiness.

It has been hit or miss with the ECM's, some have installed new ones and they were worse than the original. As for gas mileage dropping with the Yosh adjustment, this has also been fluctuating info. I get as high as 51 MPG on a road trip, and I have been enrichend allot. This problem is 100% a suzuki issue. They could easily make this engine both run good and meet emissions, but they choose not to. For example.....S&S engines just came out with a new line of engines ranging from 110 cubic inches to 139. They are called the new X-Wedge, and they are total bad ass and are 100% passing in all emission standards. Look at the new M109R that Zuk has...that is a MONSTER of a twin engine, and it passes all specs without running like poo. Only Suzuki really knows what lies ahead for our beloved Strom engine. Will they overhaul it, or drop it like a rock?

I also agree that a good dealer is "rare" but very good to find!

BB

[Howboucha]

Looks like I noticed this a bit too late, but seems to have controled itself.

Yep, must be winter time.

Rember that this site was built on no BS posts or flame wars. Although it can be interesting to read every now and then, there are other sites for that.

Let's maintain the spirit of this site.

Man it's cold out. :(

Now go enter the new contest.

[boomslanger]

My '06 was a stumbling wombat for the first 6000k, and after the first service just gradually smoothed itself out to the point I can't remember what my angst was about. Believe me there was some early angst in that even reading about the problem in these boards before buying the bike, I was very close to getting rid of it if the thing continued its terrible spluttering.

As I said it is now running sweatly but twice now it has completely died on me. Once when backing down speed in 5th gear rolling down a long hill to a road worker with a stop sign. And again three months later, of all places slowing down approaching the road from my driveway in first gear. Both times the bike started again first press of the button.

I'm currently approaching 19,000k on the odo.

[NYrider67]

I have to agree that they can make these run fine and meet all emisions. How do other big twins do it? I know that BMW has had catalytic converters on their bikes for a few years. Their 07 models have them built into the muffler (That would be expensive to replace). I also understand that Harley is going to start putting them into their Big twins for 07 along with FI. Odd though they were only going to put it on one cylinder, just enough to pass emmisions. That has to make it a bit harder to tune/synch, maybe a good crossover pipe would help bleed off the pressure difference between cylinders. That isn't too expensive of a fix for emisions, so I can't see Suzuki dropping the DL1000 on emisions if others have found a few hunderd dollar fix.

[MightyShep]

I thought that there was a catalytic converter in the stock exhaust. The emission section of the service manual shows what Suzuki calls a "3 way catalyst". Don't know if that is a half way measure or not.

[mokusbajusz]

Pick your bike up and ride it down to Columbus, I'll tune it up, then take it to my dealer for the Yosh treatment. You'll love me for it!!!!!!;)

I don't even know Big B and I like his attitude...........:)

Kurt


Is BigB trying to gather boyfriends? :mrgreen:

[DLinthe408]

I bought a used 06 DL1000 with 1200 miles about 1 month ago. I currently have 2000 miles on it.

It's bone stock.

So far, I haven't had any issues with it. No dying out on me, no stumbling--although the engine vibrates a lot more than my Bandit 1200, but I think that's normal for a V.

So, if for any reason my bike starts doing these dreaded things you guys post of, does the Suzuki warranty cover it all (please, no Suzuki dealer quality rants and raves!)?

[MWValley]

Geez,

I thought the LitreStrom Shuffle was a dance fad of some kind! It's a bike problem????

Kidding aside, I put 12,000 miles on a K4 LitreStrom and a few thousand more on my K6. No problems. I've added farkles to beat the band, but nothing done to the engine. Bone stock from air filter to those big, bazooka-lookin' mufflers.

I know the 650 is one of the best mass-produced motorcycles ever made but for me that big, boomin' litre motor is the cat's pajamas. Grab a bunch of throttle while blasting off a steep pitch drop on a backcountry mountain road, and just huck yourself (and bike) into the air. It's awesome. A good buddy of mine who's ridden all kinds of motorbikes for 30 years or more took the K6 for a test spin this past Summer. As he dismounted with a huge grin, he pointed to the engine and proclaimed it, "God's own motorcycle engine". That's pretty high praise I suppose.

But more to the point, I've never seen any significant trouble with these bikes so I can't comment about any maladies. I have had the left side engine cover oil leak on the K4 and a starter switch contact arc itself to dust (also K4) but other than than. Just tire and oil/filter changes. Nuthin' to it.

For those of you who are afflicted, don't be unreasonable but stay on top of your dealers and make sure they understand Suzuki HAS to make this right if there's a real problem there. Remember Suzuki is obligated to make it right, not the dealer. The dealer is not the party offering/guaranteeing the warranty. Generally if you make it clear that you understand this, the dealer is more likely to want to help you get it fixed.

Cheers,

MW Valley

[STROMETTE]

MWValley, sure is good to see ya back around my friend (snow must be fallin' eh?). Still got that BMW Rondel on your Strom? That was the best thing I saw the entire wkend! The comments from Beemerville were simply freakin' priceless. :mrgreen:

Stromette

[mikevstrom]

MWVALLEY,
How about a picture of the BMW rondel on the 'Strom? The idea makes my heart all atwitter.

[Kawidad]

Interesting, but I was talking the owner of my local Suzuki dealer about the 1k stroms and he said that he won't let the new ones leave the store with being put on the Yosh box. The smog nazis would probably castrate him for this if they found out, but he's trying to avoid this issue, and thereby, avoid unhappy customers.

[WeThereYet]

Interesting, but I was talking the owner of my local Suzuki dealer about the 1k stroms and he said that he won't let the new ones leave the store with being put on the Yosh box. The smog nazis would probably castrate him for this if they found out, but he's trying to avoid this issue, and thereby, avoid unhappy customers.

+1 +1 on this dealer. Finally a progressive thinker putting customers first. I wish him years of success.

[handyhiker]

Well I filled the tank on the bike after I ran through what the dealer had put in when they did the bike service. They had told me that the fuel in the tank looked funny and smelled funny when I took the bike in with the running problem. I did not give much Merritt to this because I use the same gas station for all my stuff, cars, lawn mower, and past bike. Never had a problem. When I filled up a week or so ago, the bike started to miss and stumble again. Not as bad as the first time, but definitely there under 4000 RPMs. Today I filled back up with Speedway fuel, 87 octane. The bike ran almost perfect again. I truly think that once I run the rest of this fuel out and refill it again, the bike will be perfect. The gas station I had been using is a Sunoco. The station is busy so I know the fuel is some what fresh. I have run apx. 4 tanks of this fuel and the bike has run bad on every tank. Also to mention, I have tried 87,93, and 94 octane from this station. I got the same results, miss and stumble under 4000. I am now planning to switch all my fuel needs to another station and see if my mileage goes up in my car and truck. Has anybody else noticed this with Sunoco Fuel??

[greywolf]

I'll go out of my way to stick with these. (http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html)

[Big B]

I usually fill up at the local Exxon or Sunoco, I have had nothing but good results.;) Now......if you wanna talk about gas that I "have" had issues with, it would be BP gas. It is more corn than gas, maybe water too. My bike has run like poo anytime that I have filled up there.

[afmeyer]

I have a K6 which stalled a few times and runs rough @<4000 rpm. The dealer checked the VIN and said that if after I adjust the valves, change the plugs, check the TPS, and do a TBS, the problem persists, he will replace the ECM. I still have to do the TBS & TPS. My K6 is an early 2006 with 16k miles on it.

[GreatWhiteHunter]

I have a K6 which stalled a few times and runs rough @<4000 rpm. The dealer checked the VIN and said that if after I adjust the valves, change the plugs, check the TPS, and do a TBS, the problem persists, he will replace the ECM. I still have to do the TBS & TPS. My K6 is an early 2006 with 16k miles on it.

Do you mean to say that he expects you to perform this service?

[Big B]

I have a K6 which stalled a few times and runs rough @<4000 rpm. The dealer checked the VIN and said that if after I adjust the valves, change the plugs, check the TPS, and do a TBS, the problem persists, he will replace the ECM. I still have to do the TBS & TPS. My K6 is an early 2006 with 16k miles on it.


Dealer is full of poop! The valves do not need adjusted, gets "checked" at 15k.:rolleyes: As far as the TB's and TPS getting adjusted, if your problems persists for another couple hundred miles, it is their responsibility to perform this. You are under warranty, and they "must" by law get your bike running well. My dealer said that if I ever wanted another ECM, it would be a done deal. Adjusting the TB's is very simple, you can and should do that....everything else needs done by them. DO NOT let the dealer give you the runaround, be a serious butthole if need be.

[grimel]

I usually fill up at the local Exxon or Sunoco, I have had nothing but good results.;) Now......if you wanna talk about gas that I "have" had issues with, it would be BP gas. It is more corn than gas, maybe water too. My bike has run like poo anytime that I have filled up there.

We have a Philips 66 here as best I can tell has a leak from the water line to the fuel tanks. Of course they deny it and some people keep buying there.

[Mortaine]

Dealer is full of poop! The valves do not need adjusted, gets "checked" at 15k.:rolleyes: As far as the TB's and TPS getting adjusted, if your problems persists for another couple hundred miles, it is their responsibility to perform this. You are under warranty, and they "must" by law get your bike running well. My dealer said that if I ever wanted another ECM, it would be a done deal. Adjusting the TB's is very simple, you can and should do that....everything else needs done by them. DO NOT let the dealer give you the runaround, be a serious butthole if need be.

Now biggin I know you know anything and everything there is to know about the problems with these bikes you say they don't need this or that maybe the bike is the exception. You come on like the soothsayer of doom then swoop in with the answer,(in your opinion). Which is very often suspect, LOL and I am sure you know about opinions. I didn't start off looking for the opportunity to pick on you I was just looking for a recent post which I knew you would read. What I was going to say is since you and some of your brethren like to post poll's why don't you post one regarding how many have had no problems with the way their V runs. I can start it off, I bought my first last March I bought my second one three weeks ago both 06's neither exhibit any of the problems complained about by a few on this forum. Both came from the same dealer originally maybe that is the answer the Dealer. No the second one was not purchased to keep and besides its that ugly color red. To stay on topic so GW won't get after me I use Chevron, Chevron, Chevron, or in a have to case Shell both of which have top tier fuels. Have not looked recently but the last time I looked Sunoco was not a top tier fuel.

[Big B]

Now biggin I know you know anything and everything there is to know about the problems with these bikes you say they don't need this or that maybe the bike is the exception. You come on like the soothsayer of doom then swoop in with the answer,(in your opinion). Which is very often suspect, LOL and I am sure you know about opinions. I didn't start off looking for the opportunity to pick on you I was just looking for a recent post which I knew you would read. What I was going to say is since you and some of your brethren like to post poll's why don't you post one regarding how many have had no problems with the way their V runs. I can start it off, I bought my first last March I bought my second one three weeks ago both 06's neither exhibit any of the problems complained about by a few on this forum. Both came from the same dealer originally maybe that is the answer the Dealer. No the second one was not purchased to keep and besides its that ugly color red. To stay on topic so GW won't get after me I use Chevron, Chevron, Chevron, or in a have to case Shell both of which have top tier fuels. Have not looked recently but the last time I looked Sunoco was not a top tier fuel.

Whatever your majesty!:rolleyes: Once again you post something that is worthwhile, and actually helps somebody. I am so happy that you have gotten another Vee that runs perfect, what was wrong with the other one? Maybe you have a good dealer that sets it up right? I know that a good dealer set up will help, but why would Suzuki replace computers if it was something that the dealers were doing wrong? My opinions/facts and experiences, as well as that of my "brethren", have actually helped people on this forum. Have you actually helped people with your opinionated comments?

Do you browse any other Strom specific forums or groups? Guess they are incorrect with all their experiences with this issue as well. Yup....Suzuki loves to lose money and replace ECM's for free, makes perfect sense to me. You have got to admit that these bikes are tuned from the factory, to just barely be able to run well. If things are not adjusted within spec, the problem WILL rear its ugly head quickly. If things are adjusted well, you may never have an issue. Allot of people don't feel like messing with their bike to make it run well...cause it already should be in their mind.

Do as you will, and think as you will...makes no difference to me.;)

I'll take your advice and start a poll, seems like a good idea.

[WeThereYet]

No the second one was not purchased to keep and besides its that ugly color red.

WTH? Now he's gettin my attention! http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/boxe.gif :D

[MightyShep]

WTH? Now he's gettin my attention! http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/boxe.gif :D

LOL. He's just a troll. Comes in and tries to stir the pot with trash talk. Kind of pedantic and juvenile if you ask me. If the Strom were so bad why would he own 2?

[Big B]

LOL. He's just a troll. Comes in and tries to stir the pot with trash talk. Kind of pedantic and juvenile if you ask me. If the Strom were so bad why would he own 2?

Because I feel that he believes that there really isn't, or wasn't a true issue with this. Thinks that only a handful of people just like to complain and moan about a bike that doesn't run perfect. I have 2 local dealers, who have both admitted and were very aware of this running issue. Does it and has it affected every 1000 Strom owner? Of course not, but it sure has gotten allot of attention from those who are and were affected. Some people have had ZERO issues with this and I am very happy for them...."Mortaine is one of them"! Others have not been so lucky, but they sure have had some good info and advice given to them too. It is better to be informed and not need the info, then to need some info and not be able have it.;) Is everything that you read on a forum good info and true? I think you know the answer to that!

Howboucha does not allow BS, slandering, harrassing or troublemaking on this forum. Therefore....the majority of info that is shared here is based on facts and experiences. This is a place to learn, share info, make friends, plan events, and to HAVE FUN!!!!!

[handyhiker]

Howboucha does not allow BS, slandering, harrassing or troublemaking on this forum. Therefore....the majority of info that is shared here is based on facts and experiences. This is a place to learn, share info, make friends, plan events, and to HAVE FUN!!!!!

+ 1 for that. I have had trouble and this forum has been a saving grace to me.:D

[Mortaine]

LOL. He's just a troll. Comes in and tries to stir the pot with trash talk. Kind of pedantic and juvenile if you ask me. If the Strom were so bad why would he own 2?

Shep its not trash talk, I own two of them and have access to a third all being 2006's none have any of the problems discussed on this forum, As for the dealership 10 plus bikes out for the year and NONE have returned with a running problem. I bought the ugly red bike because I could not pass up the offer, I DO NOT have a problem with either of my bikes, I just bought one to pedal and the grey bike I will keep. Some of you old girls are so serious I think you actually believe some of the stuff you type. You girls are soooo funny sometimes. Its amazing how some of you stick together and cannot resist jumping on someone that has a different opinion from your little click group. Just because some of YOU can't please don't think that there are not people that can. The name calling is a nice touch it lets me and others know that you are lost and name calling is your last resort. LOL

[WeThereYet]

Some of you old girls are so serious I think you actually believe some of the stuff you type. You girls are soooo funny sometimes.

Oooh! If I had more time I'd really give him a piece of my mind! But I'm off for tea and stickies with my "stitch and bitch" group!

[BALLARAT JACK]

Is there some way the moderators to remove the personal mud slinging crap so those that are interested in finding solutions to topic problems do not have to sift through to find help asked for.

[Andy Chesley]

Chalk me up for another lucky guy as I've had no issues with my K6DLK I bought while in Ohio a few months back. About 1300 miles on it so far and all I've done is change oil/filter n adjust the chain maintenace wise. Now it's just getting the bike to fit me handlebar / seat wise. (One of those things about age, you don't conform to the bike, you make it conform to you for comfort.)
Of couse I've just come off of 11 years of BMW GS ownership with the famous BMW surge in the 3 to 4K rpm range and just got used to it.
Hmmmmmmm I never thought of putting a BMW roundel on my DLK. That ought to stir the bucket with my Beemer friends. ;-).. But in true, most all of the guys I ride with and do rallies with don't care what you ride as long as you ride. We like all bikes, scooters, racers.

[jdpower]

I feel that they are feeding you a line of crap, and I don't buy it for 1 second.:rolleyes: This is the same basic unchanged engine since 02, and all they have done every year, is make it run more lean. There are no gremlins and bugs in this engine or the fuel injection system. This is not a new engine, and they have changed very little if "anything" since it debuted. I'll bet you that your bike is still parked right where they pulled it in at, and they are leading you to believe that they are working on it. A dealer shouldn't need to keep a bike for more than 2 days for any issue or repair. All they freakin need to do is make sure your TB's and TPS are adjusted, fatten up the FI system with a Yosh....or put in a freakin PCIII or TFI/DFO box.

You should be out riding your bike right now!!!!!! Pick your bike up and ride it down to Columbus, I'll tune it up, then take it to my dealer for the Yosh treatment. You'll love me for it!!!!!!;)

I assume not all dealers have the "yosh" box. Is that right? My small dealer where my 650ABS is coming into said that if it needed any remapping of the FI, they don't do that so would have to get service with some of the larger dealers in my area. I'm hoping the 650 won't have any problems. I do have a K3 1000 which has the PCIII and runs fine to me.

JDP

[greywolf]

Is there some way the moderators to remove the personal mud slinging crap so those that are interested in finding solutions to topic problems do not have to sift through to find help asked for.It's unlikely moderators see all posts. There is a triangular icon on the upper right of each post to report the post to the moderators. Help them to help you.

[Big B]

I assume not all dealers have the "yosh" box. Is that right? My small dealer where my 650ABS is coming into said that if it needed any remapping of the FI, they don't do that so would have to get service with some of the larger dealers in my area. I'm hoping the 650 won't have any problems. I do have a K3 1000 which has the PCIII and runs fine to me.

JDP


You are very correct in assuming this. You would think that the very large dealers would all have one, but yet I have heard of very small dealers having them too. Another thing is......some dealers "may" have one, but they don't make it publically known, and only remap for certain people.
The 650's for the most part, have had almost zero issues with the lean running problem, that curses allot of the 1000 models. I seriously doubt that you will have any issues with the Weestrom. It could run a little rough at first, but will smooth out perfectly with mileage.

[Big B]

It's unlikely moderators see all posts. There is a triangular icon on the upper right of each post to report the post to the moderators. Help them to help you.

Greywolf gave some very good advice. Use that icon to send a report, you will hear back from a MOD very soon. As far as seeing all the posts....if they are in my section "1000", I see them all. I am far from perfect in how I respond to some posts, I get irritated just like anybody else.;) I want this section to be fun and informative, and a place where we make "friends".....not enemies.

[Criscokid]

Greywolf gave some very good advice. Use that icon to send a report, you will hear back from a MOD very soon. As far as seeing all the posts....if they are in my section "1000", I see them all. I am far from perfect in how I respond to some posts, I get irritated just like anybody else.;) I want this section to be fun and informative, and a place where we make "friends".....not enemies.

+1:mrgreen:

[stevehof]

Part of the problem is just how sensitive each rider is to his motor's performance. Some may not even notice the lean running between 2-4K. The other problem is that this problem is at its worst when the bike is new and very tight. Many of the complaints you hear are from new bike owners. My 06 1K was pretty bad between 2 and 4k. I’d almost rate it as unusable in that range. I live in So Cal and I’m wondering if maybe the factory tunes the ‘California’ bike’s ECM differently? In any case, I didn't have the patience to wait out the break-in to see what would happen. I installed a PC III with a popular 'FuelMoto' map at 300 miles. The problem was solved immediately. However, the bike's motor performance continued to gradually improve, especially after I had about 2K miles on it. Nonetheless, I'm not taking the PC III off...;)

[pilbaralad]

I want this section to be fun and informative, and a place where we make "friends".....not enemies


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Sorry BB, couldnt resist, you Big Cuddly B you :mrgreen:

Thanks for an evenings entertainment guys, enjoyed the show! Bring back CTW for some more action :mrgreen: