Your Thoughts On "deer"

[Big B]

I want to hear what ya'll think about these "worthless" critters! You can vote for more than once choice, if you desire.;)

[MightyShep]

You forgot to add "mmmm, they're tasty"

[Big B]

You forgot to add "mmmm, they're tasty"


That is a good one!!!!;)

[dawgwhat]

You forgot to add "mmmm, they're tasty"

+1
go dawgs

[Jason]

One of the furry bastards took me out in July. It took me three months to get my bike back.

So kill 'em all :D

[Kawidad]

Yes, they are tasty and according to Ted Nuggent an excellent source of protein.

[Vinny]

+1 they're good to eat.

[Big B]

I can't stand the furry bastards, and I wish they would all die. I like to eat, and hunt them, but they have a way of finding motor vehicles on any road. I almost creamed a deer on the interstate today...I was going 70 mph and I locked up my brakes. Stupid animal crossed right over the median and went right in front of me. I had almost no time to react!!:mad:

There should be no limit put on the amount that can be harvested, during gun seaon. They are a menace, a nuisance and a real safety issue. I always tell my wife NOT to swerve to miss it, but to hit the stupid creature. More people get hurt by swerving, and cause mulitple accidents and even fatalities. Guess you guys know what my vote was!:mrgreen:

Somebody please tell me what purpose they serve in nature, except to feed an extremely small fraction of people that actually eat them. They sure do look purty on my wall!!!:rolleyes:

[lthrnckpa]

They are very TASTY!!

[Tige]

I wish there was a way to instill in their SMALL brains that running across a road is not the best way to get away from a big, loud thing.

Seems like the main purpose for these creatures is a source of food.

Tige

[Tomb]

I'm sitting in my living room with a compound fracture of my lower right leg, 5 broken ribs, a torn rotator cuff and miscellaneous other minor breaks and fractures, all the result of hitting a deer I never saw @ 50 mph. It as cost me $700 in riding gear, whatever the repairs to Wee-Strom will (expect minor), 3 weeks of lost work, and some very large hospital bills that will be paid by insurance.

For the life of me I can't figure out why my injuries are less important than this breed of white-tail rats.

The docs at the hospital told me that they treated 6 other people as a result of deer related motor vehicle accidents. One died. Why are deer more important than the injuries/death of these other people?

Kill 'em all. I'm only sorry I only got 1 of the 4 four I'm told ran in front of me.

[NYrider67]

They are more of a nuisance than I ever thought. I can't believe how many there are here in NY. They are everywhere. I pull in my driveway at night and there are 4 bedding down in my front yard by our pond. Granted I am out in the boonies, but everyday I see a new dead one on the way into work. Last year I had one hit me broadside, I can actually say I got Tboned by a deer. Thankfully I was in my cager, not on the bike.

[Rottweiler]

I'm convinced the deer population needs to be cut to 1/4 or 1/3 of it's current level. The Game & Fish people are compulsive-obsessive about not allowing a too-large "harvest".

I almost hit one the other day at my mailbox at 2:00pm on a bright sunny day. When that happens there are too many.

The insurance companies seem to agree.

[garry]

I have nothing against deer except them being particularly stupid/random about crossing roads. I mostly ride in the country. I'm on their turf, not the other way around. I just wish they'd learn to look before crossing the road. Other animals seem to have figured that out, but deer don't. Weird.

And I've had my share of near misses with them since I live in deer country. To the point of kicking one away that was inches from broadsiding me (hitting me in the left side).

I do think the PA Game Commission could encourage thinning the herd more, but the damn things procreate in places where hunting is banned (county parks, woods between housing plans, etc).

[MonkeyGrass]

That I currently have about 20 lbs of fresh deer meat in my freezer. One of my riding buddies puts his .308 where his mouth is and actively plays his part in "reducing the population" of deer in our area. There are 3 less than last week, that's for sure! We look at it as self-defense. Kind of the opposite of waving to cows, huh? :cool: Only thing I wave at a deer is a high powered rifle with a scope on it!

IMO - the only purpose they serve is an edible one.

I'll let ya'll know how my deer chili comes out when I get this batch made up!! :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[larolco]

I wonder if, on some forum, the deer have a poll on people...:rolleyes:

[Guardian]

1). Agree - Tasty.

2). Stupid as a rock.

3) I am an avid hunter. I live in the suburbs of central Maryland, and my wife has bagged more deer with her last three cars than I have with my 4 year-old custom hunting bow. The DNR needs to just remove the bag limit on the lawn rats for about the next four years or until It's a rarity instead of a daily occurence that you see one splattered across the road.

4). More and more children in Maryland are getting Lime disease. This has been proven to be DIRECTLY linked to deer population and contact with domestic pets, and deer bedding down in and occupying suburban habitat. My cousin Lisa was diagnosed with Lime last year. I say Kill Them All.

[NewSuz]

Check out save-a-life.com
The chrome ones add that touch of "Buck Rogers" dash to your fairing. I've been using them for awhile now and haven't hit any deer. Of course by the same reasoning I can attest to their effectiveness with giraffes, too.

[larolco]

Of course by the same reasoning I can attest to their effectiveness with giraffes, too.

Well, you can just go under them.:rolleyes:

[Rottweiler]

Check out save-a-life.com
The chrome ones add that touch of "Buck Rogers" dash to your fairing. I've been using them for awhile now and haven't hit any deer. Of course by the same reasoning I can attest to their effectiveness with giraffes, too.

Could you elaborate? That site says "Hier entsteht eine neue Internetpräsenz !" which, I think, means "Your mother wears Army boots!".

Seriously, anything that might stave off the four-legged forest demons is worth a look.

[Fourvalve]

God damn deer, anyway. If I die on a bike, it'll most likely be because one of these critters ran out in front of me. Again.

[MIstrom]

I kinda of like them. "on the grill that is!"

[Mortaine]

When you know they are out and about, you need to turn off the thought that the road is yours and you can go as fast as you want to. While we do not have much of a deer problem here, up in the higher elevations we have an Elk/vehicle problem. The state is doing what they can to fence the roads to direct the Elk and Deer to pathways made for them to go under the roadway. While I have never hit either, I have hit a 400 lb. (guestimate) Steer, at point of contact the speed was down to about 40 mph and man was that sucker HARD! ( a datsun pickup was not near as hard) I managed to get the bike sideways and he helped me make a pretty good ninty degree turn off the road and into a tree about six feet off the ground. Then the sucker watched while I got the bike down to the ground and back up on the roadway. Neither of us were any worse for wear and we both went on our merry ways. When I see a sign now that says watch for animals, I SLOW down. As for what do I think of deer I like to watch them, but kill and eat them, to me venison is like carp you bake either on a pine board until done then give the meat to the dog and eat the pine board.

[GreatWhiteHunter]

I voted that I like them and that they have a purpose.

I like them in summer sausage, slim jims and chili.

They serve the purpose to keep my belly full!

Can't exterminate them all, need more to shoot next year! :D

[Swedge]

They are tasty, and they are much less of a problem then cagers with cell phones glued to their heads!!! Cell phones just need to be banned while driving period. just a guess but i bet more folks get taken out by cell phone cagers then by Deer, but it much harder to prove...

[tmcgee]

Cell phones just need to be banned while driving period.

Yeah, but as much as we try, we can't legislate stupidity out of existence.

[Tige]

Yeah, but as much as we try, we can't legislate stupidity out of existence.

Don't tell the current government about that - they keep trying.

Tige

[grimel]

there is a place for all God's creatures.





























right next to the beans 'n 'tater's


Parts of Tn right now have a 120 doe a year limit (3 per day). The lowest limit is 8 (2 bucks).

What we need is people to get over the idea of real men only shoot bucks.

[barnburner180]

Everyone that calls "hunting" a sport is so full of BS!!! Give the animals a gun and the same opportunities you are afforded and have them hunt you while you are hunting them. Put your life and blood on the line. That is a sport. What fun is it to kill something that it's only defense is to run? In my mind, if you kill a deer, I hope you are going to use it for some type of edible meat, not just for killing sake, leaving the carcass to be somebody else's problem and your gratification.

[Big B]

Everyone that calls "hunting" a sport is so full of BS!!! Give the animals a gun and the same opportunities you are afforded and have them hunt you while you are hunting them. Put your life and blood on the line. That is a sport. What fun is it to kill something that it's only defense is to run? In my mind, if you kill a deer, I hope you are going to use it for some type of edible meat, not just for killing sake, leaving the carcass to be somebody else's problem and your gratification.

Oh boy....you sure that you wanna go there???:rolleyes: So is this wisdom that you are feeding us, from personal experience or OPINION? As far as putting my life and blood on the line.....it happens EVERYTIME I get on my motorcycle or drive my car, when the deer are running around and crossing the roads. I grew up hunting, enjoyed/enjoy hunting, and know that there is a purpose for hunting. Is it really a sport? No it is more like a way of life, an accomplishment with a purpose, a right to bear arms and use them, enjoy nature, thinning the herds, AND EATING THE DAMN THINGS. And yes there can be extreme skill and patience involved. MOST deer that are harvested during hunting, actually get eaten by somebody. How many deer get eaten laying on the side of the road, after they have been smeared all over the pavement? Wait a minute.....I'll go interview a coyote, a buzzard, maybe some other varmits too.

You wanna talk about a real sport? Texas hold em on ESPN....now that is a freakin sport!:p

[Laava]

In this country we are leaning toward the green. That is to say that if it was here before the white man, it has special status. Usually protected with a bag limit or off limits whatever is the case. Deer [brought here by the white man] are free game, as are pigs, goats, possums, rats, mice, rabbits etc. Wild horses seem to be more controversial as are introduced trout, which you need a permit for. However, hitting big animals on the road is very rare here, rabbits and possums only knock you off line in my ex perience. Still scary tho! 50 or so yrs ago moose were released in the sth and thought to have perished. Nope! they're still there, unseen by man but proved to inhabit jungle type terrain! Where was I? Oh yeah! I love a good venison eye fillet still bloody as hell in the middle!

[GreatWhiteHunter]

I hope you are going to use it for some type of edible meat, not just for killing sake, leaving the carcass to be somebody else's problem and your gratification.

I've been hunting since I was about 12 or 13, that was before I found motorcycles. In that time I've met a lot of people because of this "activity" and never once have I ever met anyone that would bother spending their hard earned free time waiting for the opportunity to shoot one of the "most elusive animals on the earth" just to leave it lay where it dies. In fact it's quite the opposite, the objective for these folks, men and women alike, was to fill the freezer and possible get a trophy rack in the process.

I can't speak to your initial comments as I'm more in line with the belief that this is a part of life. Many people have moved away from these fundamentals and wouldn't or couldn't provide for themselves if it wasn't for the local grocery. That's their choice, this is mine.

[barnburner180]

"most elusive animals on the earth"...

I'd be elusive as well if I had a gun pointed at my head

[Criscokid]

Good with mashed potatoes, brown gravy, green beans, and glass of milk :).

[grimel]

Everyone that calls "hunting" a sport is so full of BS!!! Give the animals a gun and the same opportunities you are afforded and have them hunt you while you are hunting them. Put your life and blood on the line. That is a sport. What fun is it to kill something that it's only defense is to run? In my mind, if you kill a deer, I hope you are going to use it for some type of edible meat, not just for killing sake, leaving the carcass to be somebody else's problem and your gratification.

Some times it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

Next time, before typing, try learning something about the subject. Even your definition of a sport is wrong. By your definition, my Army son-in-law is engaged in sport over in Iraq.

[grimel]

Good with mashed potatoes, corn, green beans, and glass of milk :).

Fixed your post.

[barnburner180]

Grimel...

I was saddened to see your post to my opinion. You are entilted to your opinion just as I am; however, I would never berate anyone to call them a "fool", especially someone you don't know anything about. I too chose to serve my country. I served in the Army in the Military Police for 8 years, two of those was over in Iraq back in the first Desert Strom. After my 8 years were up, I was a sheriff's deputy for another 5 years after that. The day after I moved into private sector, I sold my gun and have never touched one since. It's your Consitutional right to own a gun and I could care less about that. It's my right to not own a gun and voice my opinion. Have someone point a loaded gun at your head simply for wearing a uniform they don't agree with and see how you feel about it. I've had it happen to me. You are right, you really should remain silent and be thought a fool, rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt... fool...

Happy Holidays

[Thumpercrazee]

They are extremely tasty, and they are good for you.

TC

[grimel]

Grimel...

I was saddened to see your post to my opinion. You are entilted to your opinion just as I am; however, I would never berate anyone to call them a "fool", especially someone you don't know anything about.

I don't NEED to know anything about you. Your post was more than sufficient to show your lack of knowledge of the subject.

I too chose to serve my country. I served in the Army in the Military Police for 8 years, two of those was over in Iraq back in the first Desert Strom. After my 8 years were up, I was a sheriff's deputy for another 5 years after that. The day after I moved into private sector, I sold my gun and have never touched one since.

And this is related to the situation how?


It's your Consitutional right to own a gun and I could care less about that. It's my right to not own a gun and voice my opinion. Have someone point a loaded gun at your head simply for wearing a uniform they don't agree with and see how you feel about it. I've had it happen to me.

Again, this is related HOW? I'll use small words for you.

Having a gun pointed at you while in uniform doesn't have ANY relationship to you owning a gun, deer hunting, and how I feel about it.

BTW, you don't have a right to not own a gun; you have a right that you choose to not exercise.


You are right, you really should remain silent and be thought a fool, rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt... fool...

Happy Holidays

You are the ignorant baboon that gave a foolish definition of "sport". You are the ignorant baboon that rambled on about deer hunting without getting ONE point correct. You are the ignorant baboon blathering on about his time in service as if it somehow is related to the discussion.

To make it simple for you, my SIL was mentioned because of the ignorant definition of sport YOU gave. What he does isn't remotely a sport, except by your foolish definition.

Finally, before blathering about your time in service, ask yourself why those who BTDT are reluctant to speak about it while those who were on the edges like to talk.

[barnburner180]

You are making yourself look like an ass and the best part is you are doing all the work.

[Big B]

Enough trash talk guys....lets just "agree", that you "disagree" with eachother!;) Deer are tasty critters, they are a public nuisance, they are a safety hazzard, and they are NOT thinning out quickly enough every season. Ohio is rumored to be roughly 5 thousand less deer killed this season, than last year. This is a serious situation!!!!:twisted:

[JayR]

I agree that they are tasty to eat, and that I did my part this seaon in MN by getting 3 in an intensive harvest area that you are allowed to take upto 5. Please excuse me while I go eat some tasty venision roast, potatoes, carrots and onions.:)

[jackpiner57]

Keep a keen eye out for them. They will take you out.

[randyo]

I see deer quite often, no big deal, they are predictable nocturnal creatures for the most part except during hunting seasons when they are getting chased around, even then, they are predictable, they have 2 purposes in life, grazing and breeding, learn their habitat and you should be able to avoid close calls

Moose on the other hand :???:

[Big B]

I see deer quite often, no big deal, they are predictable nocturnal creatures for the most part except during hunting seasons when they are getting chased around, even then, they are predictable, they have 2 purposes in life, grazing and breeding, learn their habitat and you should be able to avoid close calls

Moose on the other hand :???:

That does NOT work in OHIO!!!!!!;)

[randyo]

That does NOT work in OHIO!!!!!!;)

I have never noticed ohio deer to be any different than in any other state

deer act like deer everywhere, that's why they are so easy to predict, I mean predicting by recognizing habitat, terrain that they like to travel and the time of day they travel.

[Big B]

I have never noticed ohio deer to be any different than in any other state

deer act like deer everywhere, that's why they are so easy to predict, I mean predicting by recognizing habitat, terrain that they like to travel and the time of day they travel.

They are not easy to predict...I see deer "regularly" in places that you wouldn't believe. I see trophy bucks and herds of deer in the city, and suburbs. Ohio has one of the largest deer populations in the country, as well as producing more trophy bucks than pretty much anyone. They are the size of small horses, and are very unpredictable as to where one will pop out. Yes, I agree that there are obvious areas where deer will be located, but what about all the other places?

Your profile isn't filled out, where are you located?

[randyo]

there in you back yard cause there is cover or feed, contrary to popular belief, deer do not like large expanses of heavily forested area, they are for the most part exactly where you are seeing them, where they can forage lawns & gardens, that is not unique to ohio

I live in new england, but travel everywhere

you must have small horses in ohio

[Rottweiler]

I see deer quite often, no big deal, they are predictable nocturnal creatures for the most part except during hunting seasons when they are getting chased around, even then, they are predictable, they have 2 purposes in life, grazing and breeding, learn their habitat and you should be able to avoid close calls.

If your definition of "predictable" is...

- May be seen anywhere, anytime of day or night
- When startled, might turn and run in any direction - toward danger or away from it or any option in between
- May run in front of your vehicle
- May head butt your vehicle from the side
- May chase you down and attempt to head butt you from the rear
- May be seen in any setting - forest, meadow, urban, rural and everything in between
- May stand or lie concealed on the side of the road and decide to jump in your path with no warning and well beyond any hope of avoiding it with an emergency stop or emergency maneuver
- May be seen alone, in pairs or tripes, or entire herds

A rather strange definition of "predictable", and knowing the above does *not* particularly enable you to "avoid close calls" or outright collisions. The hard evidence cancels out such wishful thinking.

[sporthog93]

ABSOLUTELY!!! Can't count on them to do anything twice!If your definition of "predictable" is...

- May be seen anywhere, anytime of day or night
- When startled, might turn and run in any direction - toward danger or away from it or any option in between
- May run in front of your vehicle
- May head butt your vehicle from the side
- May chase you down and attempt to head butt you from the rear
- May be seen in any setting - forest, meadow, urban, rural and everything in between
- May stand or lie concealed on the side of the road and decide to jump in your path with no warning and well beyond any hope of avoiding it with an emergency stop or emergency maneuver
- May be seen alone, in pairs or tripes, or entire herds

A rather strange definition of "predictable", and knowing the above does *not* particularly enable you to "avoid close calls" or outright collisions. The hard evidence cancels out such wishful thinking.

[Forseti]

I voted that I kinda like em.. and I do.

However since people have removed the natural predators that used to control the population the job becomes ours. Even up here there seem to be more of em than there should be but I do not pretend to be an expert on that subject.
Thus I have no issue with hunting them as long as they are used and not left behind. (and not totally killed off)

They can be real tasty if done up right.

[larolco]

ABSOLUTELY!!! Can't count on them to do anything twice!

I have hard evidence to the contrary:

They eat the tops off my bean plants every single year. ;)

[randyo]

let me put it this way, Odocoileus virginianus are much more predictable than cage driving homo sapiens

[Prof Chaos]

Seems like everyone who can type is all for making these things an endangered species. So why is the poll so against us?

I've had a few near misses on 2 wheels, and clobbered 4 of them in cars. 3 of those at the same time (actually only hit 2, but one bounced into another and took it out).

Department of fish and wildlife needs to put tracking tags on the oversized rats so all the farkied out riders can install deer radar.

[Big B]

Seems like everyone who can type is all for making these things an endangered species. So why is the poll so against us?

I've had a few near misses on 2 wheels, and clobbered 4 of them in cars. 3 of those at the same time (actually only hit 2, but one bounced into another and took it out).

Department of fish and wildlife needs to put tracking tags on the oversized rats so all the farkied out riders can install deer radar.

You have my vote professor!!!!!

[grimel]

Seems like everyone who can type is all for making these things an endangered species. So why is the poll so against us?

Because they do serve a purpose. The problem is so many state wildlife mgmt agencies have been riped for not having a huge deer population and NOW they can't get the hunters to shoot anything without horns.

[larolco]

Because they do serve a purpose. The problem is so many state wildlife mgmt agencies have been riped for not having a huge deer population and NOW they can't get the hunters to shoot anything without horns.

So all they need is a Stebel. :rolleyes:

[coonass]

I haven't been on the site for a while because down here in South Louisiana the land of Cajuns it is deer season and I have been busy persuing the elusive white tail in hopes of exterminating the one that may run out of the woods in front of me or some other unsuspecting Stromtrooper..

[MightyShep]

Hey guy's,

Since this thread is all about hitting (or not hitting) deer I found this video the other day and thought it might be valid. It is a short film made for some sort of contest or other, but it really elaborates the point being discussed here. It is sort of long, so you'll have to wait a bit, but it really is worth seeing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6316443191185539008&q=morning+fall&hl=en

[Big B]

Wow...that is a pretty powerful vid, thanks for sharing! This just goes to show, as to why I hate these critters so much. You really don't hear about too many reports of people hitting other creatures, and getting seriously hurt or worse. They have a very good instinct of "both" finding a road, and knowing when to cross and collide with a motor vehicle.

[MightyShep]

Yeah, I was pretty moved by that vid. I realize it is fiction but it really brings home the notion that we are all one deer away from some serious issues.

[GreatWhiteHunter]

Hey guy's,

Since this thread is all about hitting (or not hitting) deer I found this video the other day and thought it might be valid. It is a short film made for some sort of contest or other, but it really elaborates the point being discussed here. It is sort of long, so you'll have to wait a bit, but it really is worth seeing.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6316443191185539008&q=morning+fall&hl=en

Thank you for sharing that, very moving.