First real glitch with DL1000

[AlaskaTroy]

Anyone had any electical problems with the gauges cluster. Mine started with the clock reseting to 1:00 when I would start thr bike. Next day went out with the Mrs and noticed it didnt run through its "check", when key was turned on. Turned key off and low and behold gauges needle swiped across face as they do when you first turn on key. Fuel pump primes fine and bike runs with no issues.
Off we go. Then an hour in we stop to gas up and when starting it up got no gauges at all. No headlight, no directionals, all marker lights were on, brake light functional.
Im sure it some loose connection, I hope anyway. anyone else shake one loose?

[NoVA-Strom]

May want to check/tighten the battery connections. Sounds like a loose ground (or loose (-) battery connection in the strom's case).

[Vinny]

none here, altough i have an 06, wife has 07 650 and all is well. Hope you find the problem!

[Big B]

Agree with battery connections, also check fuse box. KISS....... "keep it simple stupid". The problem is usually something simple on these bikes....except for Jackpiner's situation!!!! :cry:

[fl_strom]

I've been having issues with the battery connections. They are tight, that I know. Just the other day I had pulled into McDonald's Drive Thru for breakfast. To help with hearing the person in the speaker, I switched the bike off. When I went to start it up, nothing and the clock reset. I jumped off, pulled off the seat and tried to wiggle the wiring. Put the seat back on and it started right up.

I'm not sure if it's corrosion or something. I am going to take the connection apart, clean it and put some dielectric grease on it.

Hope this helps.

[dcaussie]

I've been having persistant problems with the low beam (or high - it varies) not working and after tearing through the whole bike finally tracked it down to a bad connection in the bigger of the 2 connectors that reside in the left fairing pocket. This also supplies power to the instruments, so might be worth checking in your case...

Trevor

[BumbleBee]

after viewing your pictures (way cool by the way) it looks as though you may have some corrosion issues if it were a short. you would be blowing fuses. so that leaves interupted hot lead or and interupeted ground. check every connection from the batt posts to the guages or accessory thats effected. die-electric grease is good. I haven't looked at the schematic yet, but there possibly is common feed/ground wires that connect various componants.
The key switch thing has me a bit puzzled. you say the gauges sweep when the key was turned to the "off" position? has the symptoms been repeatable?

one thing I've found on other vehicles are fuses corroded on the blades, even though they test good on top of the fuse they were corroded enough on the blades to cause trouble. Just a thought, and its free to check!

[AlaskaTroy]

Thanks for the replies. Bumblebee yes the freakish gauge glitch happens alot now. Also finding that more often then not I dont have any gauges when stsating the bike and they will come on shortly after puling away from initial start. Leading me to believe the same thing, bad connection. Just turned 15K on it. most all hard Alaskan miles. Talked to the dealer (who is trying to get back on my good side) and he agreed to take a look at no charge. Ill see what he comes up with and go from there.
Great we have a resourse like this, thanks again.

[AlaskaTroy]

Well its got the dealer stumped. They called Suzuki today and have a couple of things to try tomarrow..........and the saga continues.

[AlaskaTroy]

One week into it and still not right. They tried whatever it is the factory suggested, no go, tried a new ECM (probally my old one) nothing. When I mentioned a loose ground he agreed and said they had just started looking at the harness from the back end. Funny they start there its the gauge cluster thats screwed up. Oh well getting charged three hour of shop rate no matter how long it takes them. Riding season about to shut down here!

[BumbleBee]

keep us posted alaska troy! by the way what is there take on the key switch glitch? that just isn't right, and I hope you get the whole truth when they get it figure out! sorry to here the saga continues, be sure and hold there feet to the fire!.

We're all pullin for ya!

Bumblebee

[AlaskaTroy]

Well talked to the dealership today and they say and I quote "this is a real good one". There stumped. Now they think the gauge cluster is bad. There going to talk to Suzuki on Monday. They said they would see what kind of break they could work out. As long as its not my bank! They said theve got way more then three hours into it but thats all Id be charged for labor. As before the saga continues................

[AlaskaTroy]

Maybe they dont like the cold!
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/AlaskaTroy/IMGP0013.jpg

[AlaskaTroy]

Well after a week and a half the dealer mechanic says come get it. After all the searcing for a short all he had to do was "reset the gauge cluster". Anyone ever hear of this? I have'nt. None the less they say its fine now and if it happens again they will look further into it. We'll see.

[Cpope]

Over 10000 miles on the K3 I have had that happen 4 or 5 times, usually coming to a stop sign or red light, motor just quits and clock resets, a minute later it starts and runs perfect.

Last Wednesday night at a bike nite it did the same thing for at least 10 minutes, about 15 tries on the starter switch. After a few seconds, everything resets and I hit the starter button it all goes dead again. At least 15 times. Finally started and got home with out any more problems. Next morning went thru all farkles and battery connections, everything was OK. Just cleaned (not really dirty) all conections and as of right now, no problems at all.

This is the ONLY problem I have had with the V, hope we some how find what is causing this intermitting problem.

Charlie

[CAStromer]

Greetings AlaskaTroy:

I am having a very similar, intermittent problem on my 2005 DL1000 - dead instrument cluster and no headlights, sometimes when I start her up and sometimes in the middle of riding. My four turn signals, tail light and brake light continue to work. When this happens my gauges also sweep when the ignition is turned off.

The problem started as a quick resetting of the clock to 1:00 am while on a 1,752 mile loop trip from the SF Bay Area down highway 1 and up 395 in California. I later lost the headlights for the first time about 90 minutes before dusk and 80 miles down the highway. I made it home just as daylight was lost!

I have logged 17,000 miles in about 15 months and have followed the regular maintenance schedule. I check the fuses already and plan on checking the rest of the harness.

This is the first real problem with the bike. I had some low-end performance problems initially and just kept the engine above 4,000 rpm. When I finally mentioned the problem to Golden Gate Cycles, the dealer replaced the computer. The bike has run fine ever since and continues to run fine even now when I don't have headlights or my instrument cluster. Hopefully, I will find something that I can pass along.

[AlaskaTroy]

Well I didnt have much of a chance to put on many miles before we were snowed in here. Sounds like exactly the same problem. No computer replacement here though. Dealer showed me how to "reset" the gauges and Ill have to wait till spring to see how it holds up. Thanks for replying and keep me up on your progress if you would.

[CAStromer]

I had the dealer investigate my intermittent instrument cluster/headlight failure problem when I took my bike in for its regular maintenance. I checked all the connections visually but found nothing. The dealer found a bad soddering job on a ground plug in the main harness. It showed up on their meter and wasn't visable unless you pulled the insulation back. They resoddered the plug, and the problem seems to have been cured. Rode the black beauty in the rain and cold today and no problems. I guess it pays to know how to use a voltage meter, though the dealer has meters that easily connect to the various harness plugs.

[AlaskaTroy]

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind this spring if I still run into a problem.

[greatrep]

Alaskatroy,
If you could share the reset procedure that would help us alot. Thanks for the info

[xaqc]

Alaskatroy,
If you could share the reset procedure that would help us alot. Thanks for the info

I would like to have this information too. My V-Strom just started doing that. It happens usually at startup, but also twice when riding (in massive accelaration), the dials and clock resets themself, but the bike continue to run fine.

Thanks

[msi1259]

Alaskatroy,
If you could share the reset procedure that would help us alot. Thanks for the info

The attached picture on resetting the instrument cluster is from the service manual - I'm not sure how that would cure a fault that also causes the headlights not to work....

[msi1259]

Greetings AlaskaTroy:

I am having a very similar, intermittent problem on my 2005 DL1000 - dead instrument cluster and no headlights, sometimes when I start her up and sometimes in the middle of riding. My four turn signals, tail light and brake light continue to work. When this happens my gauges also sweep when the ignition is turned off....<snip>

The front turn signals appear to use the same ground connection as the headlights and instruments - so I doubt it's a ground connection, but the oil lamp and neutral lamp use separate grounds (the switches connect to ground) - did the neutral/oil indicators work? The high beam, low beam, and meter circuits each have their own fuses, so it might be something common to the power feed -The SV1000 have an (infamous) green connector ( http://www.sv-portal.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25181 ) that has caused problems with power feeds - maybe the DL1000 has something similar?
Next time it happens, maybe pull the headlamp connectors off the back of the bulbs, and see if the instrument panel comes alive? (the headlights draw a lot of power).

[GONE14S]

I have had the same problem you folks have here in this tread.
But I found the problem..........
There's a large 26 pin or so elc. plug mounted under the headlight assem. lower left. It has a big rubber boot covering it. The plug runs everything on the dash.
When I started wiggling the plug with the key on the dash would light up and go off. I took the plug apart and there was a pin in the center that was black from arcing. I cleaned the pin up and put it back together. I have not had the problem show up again.

Kurt

[xaqc]

Hello,

My bike is getting worst !!!

At the beginning it was just reseting the time, while doing at the same time a sweep of both meters (RPM & Speed). I could live with that, but after a couple of weeks, my speedo meter died on me. The RPM is still working fine. So I have been driving at 0 speed for the last 2 weeks :D This was too much so I took an appointment at the dealer, but since it is the beginning of the season, they were packed.

The first week I thought the speedo meter was the problem since my clock was not resetting anymore. But it was not the case as the reseting restarted this weekend.

Also weekend, I had another problem, the CHECK was blinking ! But the bike was working fine. I stopped, turned off the bike, checked the fuses ... nothing . Restarted the bike, no more check for the whole weekend.

This morning I had my appointment to the dealer, I will let you know what they find ...

[StromDaddy]

I too have had this happen twice - on the ride down to Deal's Gap last week.
Couldn't figure out what was going on with my meter so ended up cutting the trip short and heading back home.
I did leave the parking light on for a couple of hours but caught it and shut it off that first evening. In the morning turned the key on and everything was as normal - hit the starter and the gauges swung to the right and everything died. Started to get undert the seat heard a click the clock had reset and the guages were back to normal. Bike started and I rode400 miles south no problems all day starting stopping ect. Next morning the same thing but I got into the seat and started checling things with my meter- 2-3 minutes later it all reset. Rain and this problem caused me to head back to the garage as I really didn't want to diagnos an electrical problem on the road in the rain.

I am getting ready to dive in this weekend - anyone have the cure? or are we looking at similar symptoms to a host of electrical gremlins?

Thansk for any insights.

[greywolf]

A common problem area is the large connector under the rubber bonnet inside the left side of the fairing. Check it for discoloration which would indicate a marginal connection.

[xaqc]

Hello again,

It turns out that my resetting meter were caused by a pin in a big connector that was arcing... the dealer fixed that easily.

But my other problem is more complicated and/or frustrating; the fact that the speed meter was always on 0 ! They thought it was the speed sensor, they ordered the piece (almost a week of waiting), changed it ... still same problem. Then they looked at all the cables ... no problems. Now they are changing the whole meter unit (another week waiting for it) ... I will know this afternoon if the problem is fixed ! If its not the case, I'm taking my bike out of there, I wont lose a month of riding for that, I don't need to know my speed, or I will buy a GPS and fix the problem this winter.