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St Germain
05-29-2003, 10:09 PM
I've read everything all of you wrote about windshields and it helped as much as it got me confused. Didn't know what to do or buy. I finally decided to buy the Givi one. It's only 100$ CDN and I might experiment by
cutting part of it, like one of you did... Should get it next week. I'll write
about results.
St Germain :shock:
I agree it did get a bit cornfusing. The opinions were very valuable, and were very different. I for one, don't mind the wind hitting my skid lid. It ads to the fun for me. I would like to try one of the larger shields on a distance run though.
I met a V-Strom owner this morning on my way to work and we talked a bit. He was on his way for a 10 day adventure on his 2003 yellow V-Strom that he recently purchased. He installed the Givi shield a few days ago, and didn't have much of an opinion yet. It will be interesting to see what he thinks after his tour.
I am going to hold off on getting a different shield because I am anxious to buy the Touratech hard cases, and they are pricey. If only I was rich....
Brendan
#653
I couldn't stand the tall suzi shield untill I installed the Lip. Big improvement. Not perfect though. Head still gets knocked around a little by turbulence.
I think maybe a 4x8 sheet of plexiglas? :lol:
replaced
06-01-2003, 11:53 PM
Many of us in the KLR world experimented with removing the stock shield, and riding without one at all. While this made the ride more enjoyable by eliminating buffeting, I didn't think it looked that great. And of course, we are all about looking great eh?
I installed the (now Kawasaki) larger shield, and I didn't care for it much. I guess what I am getting at is:
Has anyone removed their stock screen, and how did it fare compared to having the screen on?
Keep two wheeling,
Brendan
Brenter
06-03-2003, 10:30 PM
I am 6'8" tall and have added about 3" to the seat height. I ordered a cee bailey shield 12" taller than stock and 5" wider. I really like the less buffeting and bug protection. Any questions please ask. erns@sofnet.com
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pfloyd111
06-08-2003, 08:11 AM
I hear that the Cee Bailey windscreens are very good. A friend of mine just bought one and he said it is pretty good. I think I am going to get one shortly. Bill S., St. Louis, Mo. 8)
enigmatic john
06-09-2003, 05:41 PM
:( well it seems I am just as confused as y'all. I only get the buffeting with a pillion on the back. over here in the UK we seem only to have the 20cm taller factory screen on offer and at £75's it's an expensive experiment. I'm open to suggestions......
On a brighter note I've just got a Baglux Bagster in matching yellow, should look great when it's fitted. will try and post piccys.
St Germain
06-09-2003, 10:10 PM
I installed the Givi windshield today... the only better thing is went you
bent down, there's a pocket free of noise and buffeting but standing
streat, it's worst than the stock... :(
I'm p..... and I don't have much time so I'm odering the lip and ears.
Check this out motorcycledaily.com may 14th 2003...
St Germain
Htown Trooper
06-10-2003, 01:31 PM
I installed the standard Cee Baileys and it was a definite improvement but still not right. The buffeting is still vision blurring. The buffeting has been so bad that after riding I am extremely tired and have head aches.
My next experiment has been to cut down the stock windscreen. WOW, what a difference. Other than added wind presssure to my shoulders, I enjoy riding again. I know there will be a lot of bugs but it will be worth it if my head doesn't pound after riding for a few hours.
I too installed the Cee-Bailey windscreen that is 22" tall. It made a huge difference in wind noise, I use to have to ride with ear plugs in. I do agree that the buffeting is still there, less severe but at a higher frequency to where it feels like a vibration to the head at times over 70-75 mph. I'm 5'11 and only have to tuck down about an inch to make it stop. I'm thinking that if I cut the seat down that much I might improve that but for now I'm just riding it the way it is.
Dave
'03 Yellow DL
RandyP
06-13-2003, 05:32 PM
I have bought the Tall Suzuki, and now I'm running the Cee-Bailey. Are there two Cee-Bailey designs for the 'Strom? Standard and Tall?
So far, I still feel buffetted with the Tall Suzuki and the Cee Bailey, though both eliminate the high frequency noise really well.
I just ordered the Laminar Lip and Ears, because, hey, I've already dropped so much into Windscreens, what is another $105?
Has anybody had experience with the Laminar Ears?
I'm thinking that I'll go back to the Tall Suzuki Windscreen and try these unsightly, but maybe pretty functional, little widgets and then see what happens.
I'm not after a noise/wind free experience. I just want to be able to crank all day without serious physiological weirdness.
Randy P
Boulder,CO
Blue #1021
I tried a suggestion I saw posted here a while back to reduce buffeting from the fairiing; lower the bike in the front by loosening the triple clamps on the fork tubes and dropping the bike down 22 mm. I put about 200 miles on the bike yesterday and if anything the handleing seemed improved. The big difference was that the high frequency buffeting to the helmet seemed noticably decreased.
The change doesn't put your heads position any different relative to the windscreen than before but maybe because the windscreen angle to the relative wind makes a difference.
Dave
St Germain
06-21-2003, 12:34 AM
I got the Laminar Lip and Ears at my door within 10 days! It took me
15 min. to install on my Givi tall windshield. So far it's perfect for me. I'm 5'11'' and when I standing straight, I get a bit of wind but not as noisy as
before and if I rest my arm on my tank bag it's almost noise free.
I'm counting days, leaving next Friday for a 3 week trip!
St Germain
P.S.: Canadians, be prepared to pay 63$ extra for costum charge when
you order the Lip. :x
wfcuva
07-17-2003, 11:27 PM
I got an Ermax Windshield from Frog Specialties. Cost about $100 including shipping. http://www.ermax.fr/Sites_anglais/news/produitErmax/VSTORM/IMAGE_GRANDE/DSCN1099.jpg
It looks great. Easy to install. Cuts down on bugs and wind. Still a little buffetting, but I am 6'2". If I slouch a bit, I get no wind noise to speak of. Would work better if I was just a touch shorter. I am thinking of getting a corbin seat, and I understand it sets a bit lower, and that may be the perfect combination. I love the bike, and the Ermax screen makes it better. :)
I've had the Cee Bailey on for a while and loved the reduced noise, still seems to be too buffety though. We've had a stretch of really hot weather in Seattle so I went back to the stock shield (I've dropped the front 22mm still). Guess what? I like the stock on better! I'm back to needing earplugs on the freeway but my head is in cleaner air.
Dave
I presently have a ZX-12R w/ZG DblBbl and a stock-screened KLR650..and soon, I hope, a VStrom or SV1000 or SV1000-S...these Suzuki V-twins really intrigue me (Aprilia Caponords and Falcos, too)...I guess I've been a 6'1" barndoor on any of my bikes that I've owned..part of the reason I ride is for the 'experience'...including the sounds and the wind buffeting...although very severe buffeting can get fatigue anyone in short time, a little buffeting never hurt anyone :wink: ...its all part of that 'motorcycling experience' and why most of us ride in the first place...if I want to coddled in quiet, I'd buy a 'Wing...or take the cage :D
worm~hole
08-02-2003, 03:48 PM
..oops...that was me in the above post :oops:
Slow down grandpa!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
...my advanced apologies for this tiny hi-jack: and why did you sell the ZX-12R? :shock:
why did you sell the ZX-12R?
Because I needed to SLOW DOWN! :mrgreen:
Got the Cee Bailey windscreen, the original model with the naca duct + 6". Wind noise was reduced, but buffeting was worse. Headache after a 30 minute ride. Sending it back. Raised the forks 10mm and put the stock shield back on. Noticeable improvement in the buffeting department. May try Laminar Lip with the stock shield next.
donsvmax
10-10-2003, 10:52 AM
I recently installed the ERMAX screen....it sucks!! Noise hardly reduced if at all and buffetting out of control. I am 6'0 with a 31" inseam. Do the manufacturers test these screens before they put them on the market? Hopefully a set of lips and ears will fix the problem.
Don
m_moorhouse
10-12-2003, 12:07 AM
I had the Lip on a stock windshield and it helped alot. I just switched to a Cee Bailey +10 windscreen, what a difference! I am 5'10" and it allows me to see over the top of the screen, but now I have a nice pocket of still air around me. The fit was perfect, installtion took 10 minutes.
How thick is the CBaileys plastic and does it flop around in the wind?
jetratt
10-25-2003, 02:21 PM
I just got the CeeBaileys extra tall(I think it's +12 and 17" wide) Flops around quite a bit and doesn't really do much for noise or buffeting. I am going to try to send it back.
Hi guys
I got the Cee Baileys extra tall (+12) and I found it doesn't move around at all and it makes a huge difference for me and my wife. I did 120 mph for about 45 minutes straight and it was fine, the buffeting was much less than with the stock one and we could still easily chat through our atuocom, which wasn't possible with the stock shield at those speeds.
I personally recommend it, I'm 6' with a 33" inseam and when I get hit by bugs they get me right at the top vent of my helmet and hardly any on the visor, infact when we cruise at 80-90mph I usually have my visor open, which wasn't possible with the stock windscreen.
Viggen
10-26-2003, 05:00 AM
sorry but that was me above, for some reason it didn't log me in when I wrote that.
rodan
10-29-2003, 02:00 AM
I've done a bunch of experimenting with screens, and have finally found a solution that works, for me at least. :) I'm 5'10" for reference.
I started with the stock screen, and cut it down, which helped tremendously with the buffetting by providing clear air to the helmet. My theory of why the VStrom has such a problem with buffeting is the near vertical angle of the windscreen and the distance from the screen to the rider. The bigger the 'flip' on the screen, the worse the turbulence seems to be.
I tried the Cee Bailey's, which created more turbulence than the stock shield for me. I tried the GIVI, which was better than the stock or Cee Bailey shield, but still turbulent. I also have a REALLY tall Cee Bailey that creates a huge still air pocket, but I hate looking through the shield, so I don't know if I'll ever use it much.
I ended up with a rounded 'V' shaped cut in the windshield. This provides clean air to the helmet, while giving some protection to the shoulders and torso. My stock screen ended up very short, and I use it mostly in the Summer. You can test my theory by removing the stock windshield to see the difference. I also applied my theory to the GIVI shield and ended up with a workable shield. I did a 5700 mile trip last month with it, and I'm pretty happy with the results.
I get reasonable torso protection, with clean air at my helmet, and no buffetting except in certain crosswind conditions. Here's what it looks like:
http://www.fuglybikes.com/files/Cherohala1.JPG
scooter
10-29-2003, 02:49 PM
Has anyone tried to modify the stock screen by cutting a triangular shaped vent hole at the base of the screen. Will this depressurize the area at the top of the screen.
scooter
fairingscreen
11-07-2003, 09:34 PM
Hi,
we give the screen about 15 to 16 inch on the top and also
we give the screen much more body (round).
Try to get the screen more closer to your helmet.
Reduction of space between screen edge and pilot let the wind not "turn over". Attention !! If you enlarge to screen so much, you have to use
Plexiglas in .177" inch. Stocksize is to "wably".
Some picturers in my website:
http://www.fairingscreens.com
look in "new".
If you have any questions please let me know.
Cheers
Marcel
RedDirt
11-30-2003, 10:23 AM
I'm 5' 10". Yesterday, I installed the Laminar Lip and Ears on the stock screen. I was getting wind directly in my face. Now there is about 1" on the top of my helmet. Which is a big improvement. But, I will probably buy the Suzuki tall screen and put the Laminars on that.
RedDirt
Gisle
03-23-2004, 06:37 AM
Anyone seen or used this screen from MRA?
http://www.mra.de/IMAGES/Modelle/Suzuki/DL1000%20VT.jpg
http://www.mra.de/Marken/SUZUKI/dl1000.htm
Gisle
scooter
03-23-2004, 08:08 PM
It looks like it may be effective. I'm curious but I cannot read German.
Scooter
binder65
04-04-2004, 03:03 AM
Just installed the ZG double bubble on my bike. It looks good and I am hoping to be able to test it this week. I am 6'2" and while the stock didn't bother me much, I hope this makes me realize that it can be even better.
binder65
DesertDave
04-05-2004, 12:15 AM
Just installed the ZG double bubble on my bike. It looks good and I am hoping to be able to test it this week. I am 6'2" and while the stock didn't bother me much, I hope this makes me realize that it can be even better.
binder65
Cool! Let us know your findings. I'm 6'1" and the buffeting bugs the hades out of me. I'm looking for that nice, still pocket of air, if possible.
Circlip
04-05-2004, 07:57 AM
Cee Baileys 12" over stock seems to do the best job
no hassle installation
Pauljo
04-05-2004, 02:30 PM
Cee Baileys 12" over stock seems to do the best job
no hassle installation
Yep. I have one of those on my 2003 DL1000. Not the sexiest looking shield, but it works well. I just went to their website and I see that they now have a version that works with the 2004 mounting system too.
http://www.ceebaileys.com/suzuki/vstromwsel.html
sempervee
04-14-2004, 10:50 PM
I think you might really like the Extra wide Tall windshield I just put on my 03 Strom from fairingscreens.com - It is tall and works great. I can ride with my shield open, no earplugs and no problems..
rifraff
04-21-2004, 02:16 PM
Originally I had the tall Suzi w/Lip. Big improvement with the lip but still a lot of wind noise. If I leaned forward and slouched a little it got better.
I just installed a Cee Bailys +8 and added the Lip to it. Much quieter, much less turbulence. The lip raises the wind blast about even with the top of my helmet. I am a long trunk (short legs) 6' tall and have the Corbin saddle.
Woofy
04-23-2004, 03:55 PM
I received and installed the +12.25" touring windshield. The ridiculously simple installation took less than five minutes. After riding two evenings after work for about 3 hours each trip, I have the following observations:
1. The top corners of the windshield flex a bit in heavy crosswinds and turbulence caused by large vehicles like trucks. Considering the size of the shield, the flex is a good compromise since a completely rigid shield would have definitely made the front end FAR more susceptable to cross winds. The CB is far better than the OEM tall shield in this regard.
2. Optical quality is superb. Far better than the tall windshield by Suzuki. This is important as I'm looking through the top few inches of the windshield.
3. The shield creates a huge pocket of calm air behind it. No stinkin' helmet buffeting and I can see a LOT clearer since my noggin isn't taking a beating! It's a HUGE increase in safety and comfort level when riding for hours and hours. The change in overall comfort is comparable to the saddle upgrade.
4. Earplugs are not necessary, anymore. It's a HUGE and welcome improvement! Makes listening to music through earbud speakers much better, although that's only when I'm facing long, boring stretches of highway with little traffic.
All is not perfect, however:
1. The absense of wind blast encourages my fog-prone Arai Quantum F helmet to be all the more foggier. The face shield has to be cracked or left wide open most of the time. Not the fault of the windshield, though.
2. In the absence of wind noise, one noise immediately apparent was the infamous "chudder" so it'll be going back to the dealer in a couple weeks when the parts arrive. It'll be nice to actually hear the engine, though.
3. Air rushes upward from below on the sides of the bike to fill the area of low pressure behind the windshield. Near Snoqualmie Pass I stood up a bit on the pegs and my toasty warm Kilimanjaro jacket suddenly inflated like a balloon with ice cold air! The temperature change was comparable to jumping into a mountain river. I looked like a highly distressed, baby blue version of the Michelin tire man until I could stop the bike, deflate and re-seat the jacket on my body. Has anyone else had this experience?
tedder
04-23-2004, 05:34 PM
The jacket will stay deflated if you have rear zippers open.. I'm not sure if your jacket has those or not. Even in the rainy northwest, you won't notice the rear zipper(s) being open.
I have trouble with my Arai fogging, too. In the winter I use a Foggy mask:
http://www.respro.com/home.php
Pauljo
04-23-2004, 05:52 PM
Woofy,
I have the same size Cee Bailey on my V-Strom. I am tall enough to see over it, but the clear optics are still appreciated, because I still have to look down for road hazards, etc. at times.
You get used to the flex. It seems that most tall aftermarket windscreens do that. The Clearview windscreen on my Burgman is made of thicker material, so it doesn't flex in at the corners, but you can see the top of the windscreen move back and forth under heavy wind gusts or turbulence. The darn Givi windscreen I tried on the Burgman first, moved around so much it looked like it was made out of rubber sometimes. I think some of the difference is also attributed to the mounting systems.
The V-Strom is a very rigid mount, but the Burgman and a some other bikes use a mount system that allows a certain amount of flex.
I use some spray on anti-fogging stuff on the inside of my face shield. It helps, but doesn't solve the problem completely. At least you CAN ride with your visor cracked open now...
The backdraft effect is also common to large windscreens. It's really not too bad with the Cee Bailey, because it is a fairly narrow windscreen. It is much more pronounced with the Clearview screen on my other ride - that is a much wider windscreen as well as being comparably tall. The more air you displace, the larger the vacuum created behind the shield. Some windscreens cut a vent in the lower part of the shield to allow air to pass up the inside of the screen. This relieves back pressure - but it can also launch leaves and bugs into the rider's cockpit at seemingly supersonic speeds.
The tall Cee Bailey isn't the prettiest thing - but it has worked well for me. I think you'll do fine with it.
Woofy
04-27-2004, 01:42 PM
The jacket will stay deflated if you have rear zippers open.. I'm not sure if your jacket has those or not. Even in the rainy northwest, you won't notice the rear zipper(s) being open.
I have trouble with my Arai fogging, too. In the winter I use a Foggy mask:
http://www.respro.com/home.php
Thanks, Tedder!
Opening the rear vent and it resolved the issue, perfectly! Will try the Foggy mask. Thanks a ton!
Mr B.
05-03-2004, 01:06 PM
Trying to get rid of the buffeting/headshakes/blurry vision at higher speeds so I went all out and bought the Zero Gravity Double Bubble windscreen in smoke.
Fit and finish is excellent and it looks really really good. Unfortunately the fun stops there. Went for a 60km ride and tested it at speeds from
0-140km/h. Found the buffeting to be worse over stock at all speeds which really sucks. Couldn't even read the highway signs because my vision was so blurred from the turbulence. I'm 6ft tall.
Might sell it or try cutting a NACA vent to help equalize the pressure. The adjustable MRA shield might also be worth a go.
Mr B.
Woofy
05-04-2004, 12:43 PM
Sorry to hear that!
I took an 1100 mile ride this weekend and the tall CB made every mile ridden a pleasure! Yeah, I have to look through it so cleaning a couple times a day is necessary, but absolutely no buffeting, no blurred vision, and a huge reduction in wind noise. I'll NEVER go back to a lesser shield.
Pauljo
05-04-2004, 04:57 PM
Ever notice how quickly a bug will splat itself on a freshly cleaned windscreen or helmet visor? Darn them! They are pretty good about hitting directly in your line of sight too... :cry:
That's one reason I like cold weather riding. No bugs.
I'm 5'11" and have a '03 V-Strom and the buffeting is really doing my head in. [pardon the pun]. I can't ride over 20mph with the visor up and i have to wear ear plugs all the time. I've had it up around 130 mph a few times and its near impossible to see ahead while your head and helmet shakes all over the place. When i take out the fleece lining in my jacket i have the michelan man problem too. If i don't sell the V-Strom whats the best option. i wouldn't put those ears and lips on because i think they look crap. :roll: :roll:
Pauljo
07-02-2004, 08:34 PM
Cee Bailey makes good windscreens in various heights that work well on the V-Strom. I have one for my '03.
http://www.ceebaileys.com/suzuki/vstromws.html
The other option is a better helmet. I recently bought a Shoei Z-Two helmet. It handles the wind very well. I am 6'6" and I put the small stock screen back on for the Summer after I got that helmet. Shoei is the only helmet manufacturer that has their own wind tunnel for product development and testing, and it shows.
Don't give up on the Strom - your problem is solveable.
Columbo
07-03-2004, 07:38 PM
Doesn't all that wind tunnel testing go out the window when you put a windshield in front of you that causes all kinds of disturbances to the airflow?
CDN_RN
07-03-2004, 07:45 PM
At 5'11", the Cee Bailey, or even the Suzuki tall screen should be great for you. 6'2" and up, we're better off with stock I think. I have all three and keep going back to stock.
Pauljo
07-03-2004, 10:56 PM
Doesn't all that wind tunnel testing go out the window when you put a windshield in front of you that causes all kinds of disturbances to the airflow?
Not really. For one thing, I am 6'6" tall, so with the short stock DL1000 windscreen, the windblast hits below my neck & below helmet level. On the AN650 with the stock screen the wind hits in the chin bar area of the helmet, so I am getting a bit more of the turbulence you refer to. Compared to my other helmets (I have several) - the Shoei is more stable, quieter, and ventilates better in both situations. It is a superior helmet.
Any helmet would work behind the tall aftermarket windscreens that I have for my bikes. There just isn't that much for them to deal with. The problem in hot weather is that the tall screens defeat the helmet's ventilation system, because no direct airflow is hitting the vents. They also limit the cooling effect of my ventilated riding jackets. So in the Summer, I want some air hitting me - and the tall screens come off - and that is when the Shoei earns its keep.
Woofy
07-04-2004, 02:26 PM
I had the buffeting problem as well. I went with the tallest Cee Bailey's Windscreen. Even though I have to look through the windshield now, I get no buffeting, and can ride at speeds close to 100mph without being cognisant that the visor on my helmet is up. The outstanding optical quality of the windshield makes looking through it a pleasure. It's also a lot easier cleaning bug guts off the windshield than it is off the helmet, visor and jacket.
About the only nit I can pick with it is that the negative air pressure created by the large windshield creates a pretty strong updraft that's more noticeable if you wear 3/4 length touring jackets. That's about it.
I can't recommend it highly enough.
CDN_RN
07-04-2004, 04:21 PM
The problem with the Cee Bailey's is the bend at the top. It can distort your view when you tuck down behind it......unless you buy the 28" "Pope Mobile" version :wink:
Pauljo
07-04-2004, 04:44 PM
The problem with the Cee Bailey's is the bend at the top. It can distort your view when you tuck down behind it......unless you buy the 28" "Pope Mobile" version :wink:
I beg your pardon! I have that tall boy! Of course at 6'6", it was the approprite choice, and I do look over it by at least an inch.
It is ugly. There's that. But it also works - nothing else did for me. And I only use it in the colder weather - so I can look cool with the shorty stock screen for most of the year. I recently bought a Shoei Z-Two helmet, which makes riding with the stock screen bearable - even nice - as long as the outside temp isn't too frigid. With the Shoei, wind noise isn't bad and it is stable - no buffeting. And when it's hot outside - I LIKE all that air hitting my body. So the "Pope Mobile" thingy will go on in the Fall and come off in the Spring. Works for me.
CDN_RN
07-04-2004, 07:43 PM
LOL, Pope Mobile isn't my line....it came from my dealer....who rides a Strom with the 28" C.B.
senecagreen
07-04-2004, 08:06 PM
I've been riding with my windshield in the uppermost position on my 04 DL1000 since new. I think I will try it in the lowest position for a while since the weather is really getting hot here. If you want a still air pocket a Gold Wing or a ST1300 is a better choice than a DL.
senecagreen
07-06-2004, 09:07 PM
I got to try my windshield in the lowest position today. It made a big difference. I get a lot cleaner stream of air to my helmet with less buffeting. I'm 5'11" and it keeps the air off my chest and shoulders. I think I prefer my windshield in the lowest position now. It's a lot more comfortable on the highway now.
I should add that I wear a full face helmet so my helmet cutting through the air is not a problem. I've never worn an open face helmet so I can't comment on the air hitting that.
RDJEff
07-08-2004, 11:48 AM
I'm 5'7", and couldn't stand the stock screen on my '02, so when the Laminar Lip came out, I jumped. I put the Lip on, and noticed an immediate improvement. A few days later, I got a letter from the Laminar folks, saying they weren't happy with the original model, and that they would be sending me a revised version. Well, a week or so later, the new version showed up, and after installing it, things were much better. Anyway, 10,000 miles later, the "velcro" holding the Lip on gave up, and the Lip went flying off. Of course this happened about 300 miles from home. Man, that stock screen really sucks! 600 miles later, I was able to find another Suzuki dealership, and they had a tall Suzuki screen in stock, so I put that on for the final 400 mile stretch home. That screen is just barely better than the low stock unit. It looks like I'll be trying a CeeBailey real soon. Anybody want to buy any used screens?
Columbo
07-08-2004, 09:35 PM
I'd be very curious as to which you like best. Comparing the CB with the stock/Laminar combo. I know you didn't try the Laminar Touring Lip. I have one (touring lip), but haven't put it on yet.
I thought the Rifle would be good...I like the looks, but it may not have enough engineering and design to actually work better than the Laminar Touring lip (whick looks like something from J.C. Whitney...and I told them so). At least is was only a small investment.
Pauljo
07-08-2004, 10:02 PM
I had a Rifle windscreen on my '95 Kawi Concours and it worked great. That doesn't guarantee the the V-Strom one would be as good, but Rifle has been in the windscreen game for quite awhile - and generally makes a good product. I wouldn't hesitate to try one.
Columbo
07-11-2004, 05:35 PM
Well, I put the touring lip on this weekend and went for a short ride. I'm keeping it because it's much better than the stock windshield. I've got to experiment a bit with windshield height....it's in the lowest right now and I think #2 will work better. The handguards do not clear the touring lip, so I can't lock the steering. Doesn't look like moving the screen out further (yet!) will work, so maybe changing the bar position...although I like where they are. Perhaps modifying the guards.....some other time. I'm still curious about the Rifle.....
ou812
07-16-2004, 03:58 PM
I had purchased a screen, actually two screens, not by choice, from a company called Fairingscreens. My purchase ended up a JOKE! Not only did they send me the wrong one,... Long story, I ended up with two, a tinted one and a clear one.
After that mess I ended up with both shields cracking on me. While I was riding mind you!
I called Marcel the owner to see what the heck was wrong. He told me that I needed to oblong the holes that they are not drilled to factory specs. only close.
I had done that anyway because it was not even close to fitting.
I did this because of the mess I had to go through just to get the right shield in the first place, didn't want to send it back again. After trying to get this resolved he told me to "send them back". I asked what do we need to do to get this resolved . "Send them back" was the next reply. I asked if I would get another one money back or what? he then hung up the phone! I called right back and got the answering machine. I then proceeded to leave a message to call me. Guess what? no call. I ended up sending them back and I guess I'll see what happens.
When ordering from them there is a definite language barrier. Except when it comes to taking your money.
I have since ordered a shield from CeeBaileys
ou812
07-21-2004, 08:59 AM
Finally got a call back from Marcel at Fairingscreens. They are going to send another shield. I guess we'll see what happens this time.
Marcel apologized for the communication error and wants to make it right.
He is going to pre drill the holes this time.
senecagreen
07-23-2004, 11:23 AM
I have an 04 DL1000 and run the windshield in the highest position. I placed one 1/8" thick washer behind each of the top two windshield mount bolts and this tilted the windshield slightly more vertical and made a significant improvement in the buffeting.
You can put your hand up around your helmet and feel that your head is in a calmer pocket of air. Very good 60-70 mph. 75 you can feel some buffeting but bearable and not like stock. At 80 the buffeting is back to about stock.
This will cost you a whole 60 something cents at the hardware store. I used 5/16" washers 1/8" thick. You can find them at a bolt supply if not at a place like Westlake Hardware. Definitely something you should try first before replacing the stock shield. I'm 5' 11".
ou812
08-19-2004, 02:58 PM
Fairingscreens has yet to make good on the two winshields that cracked on me. I sent both back as Marcel requested. He said he would make it right because he didn't want bad press.
Guess what, he not only has my money but both my shields as well!
It has been about six weeks ago that he said he would make it good and I have yet to here a word from him.
I have one thing to say to Marcel.
What goes around comes around. :twisted:
Convert
08-29-2004, 08:45 PM
Brendan,
I too just took my screen off and love the result. I got it from the dealer with the screen in the lower position which made for a bumpy reminder of the speed limit. I raised the screen to the top and got a headache for my efforts. I took it off and am much happier. Now I am figuring out how to cut the screen down and still look ok on the bike.
I am 6'3" with 34 inseam and prefer to ride upright. The lack of the screen actually makes the seating position easier since the air is pushing against me. Just my thoughts on the topic.
Does anyone know if a 1/2 or 3/8 screen is produced by any of our plastic peddling friends?
Many of us in the KLR world experimented with removing the stock shield, and riding without one at all. While this made the ride more enjoyable by eliminating buffeting, I didn't think it looked that great. And of course, we are all about looking great eh?
I installed the (now Kawasaki) larger shield, and I didn't care for it much. I guess what I am getting at is:
Has anyone removed their stock screen, and how did it fare compared to having the screen on?
Keep two wheeling,
Brendan
Columbo
08-31-2004, 08:40 PM
Laminar now has a Touring Lip that is supposed to clear the guards. When they made their Touring Lip, they used a DL650 model that does not come with handguards, so they were not aware the DL1000 had them as standard equipment.
heikkil
09-01-2004, 12:32 AM
Laminar now has a Touring Lip that is supposed to clear the guards. When they made their Touring Lip, they used a DL650 model that does not come with handguards, so they were not aware the DL1000 had them as standard equipment.
O.t.o.h. it took only about 10 minutes to cut the lower corners of "The Old Touring Lip" a bit to give room for optional Suzuki handguards.
And yes, TouringLip works like a dream for me (175cm short).
YLO-JKT
09-15-2004, 10:21 PM
Anyone seen or tried www.WindStrom.com Looks like it might work
Sorry dont know how to add alink
GetFuzzy
09-22-2004, 01:31 AM
You should check out the V-strom Forum. Someone came up with the idea to add a Suzuki tall screen with a gap between the two to make his own laminar lip. Apparently it has worked for a couple of other riders as well.
Houston357
09-26-2004, 06:07 PM
TOP
Noticed new windscreen offering from Givi. Go to twisted throttle.com, under DL1000. Listed at 22.1 inches tall by 18.6 inches wide. No mounted picture. Appears nicely made. Price 99.00.
Houston
TeddyT
10-07-2004, 09:56 PM
I have an 04 DL1000 and run the windshield in the highest position. I placed one 1/8" thick washer behind each of the top two windshield mount bolts and this tilted the windshield slightly more vertical and made a significant improvement in the buffeting..
I tried the same washer trick on my DL650 with stock screen on the highest normal setting. Many thanks to "senecagreen" for the suggestion, because it does make for a very noticable reduction in the buffeting. I'm 5'8" with an average length torso. I got my washers at Home Depot and it set me back all of 28 cents. I ended up using two 1/16" thick washers behind each upper screw. I spray painted them black first to help them "disappear" when installed. While the original screws appeared to be long enough to get a decent "bite" I do wish I could get my hands on similar screws with 1/8" added length for a full grip install.
Prior to this the buffeting began to be annoying at ~55 MPH. Since the mod it quite acceptable even at 80 MPH (the fastest I've tested.)
Anyone not happy with the buffeting, owes it to themselves to try this low cost approach before spending significant bucks on an aftermarket windshield. The aftermarket windshields will still be available should you not be entirely satisfied.
Thanks and good riding.
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