View Full Version : Heated Grips, anyone?
james1300
11-04-2008, 07:54 PM
LINKY>>>http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=2&L2=53&L3=&L4=&item=PRC_A99-00010&tier2=20
james1300
11-05-2008, 12:23 AM
Oxford Heaterz
eBay, or Google the item.
4 heat levels. unit monitors the battery condition and will not come on unless over 11 volts (Bike running). Also monitors battery voltage so if you left them on for any reason they shut down automatically to protect draining the battery.
PNP unit too. No soldering, no goofing around. Attach to battery, install, plug and warm hands are yours.
COFFEE
11-10-2008, 02:36 PM
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Accessories/detail.aspx?modelId=650817db-9c0c-403e-b3d2-69de4d35f497&accessoryCategoryId=&accessoryId=52a34a0e-f43c-4fcd-a1bf-f3029d95021f
These are OEM acc for 04 to 06. I have them on my DL1000 and they work great. Those with the tourmaster winter gloves... my friends thought my hands were so warm I had stopped at the coffee shop before i landed at their house.Night time, raining at 40F.
Cornbread
11-10-2008, 09:41 PM
I've loved my Oxfords. I bought them from Whitehorsepress, I think.
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-12-2008, 11:35 PM
A question on the aftermarker Trackside heated grips from Cycle gear. Can you splice into the stock heated grip wiring for powering these grips? I just want to make sure that it will not overload the stock wires or fuse. The kit comes with enough wire to go all the way back to the battery but if I can I would prefer to run off of the stock connector area and wires.
greywolf
11-12-2008, 11:50 PM
That will work. A Suzuki horn connector or an Eastern Beaver connector will plug into the OEM heated grip connector if you prefer that to splicing. It's in a difficult place to make a splice.
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-13-2008, 12:24 AM
That will work. A Suzuki horn connector or an Eastern Beaver connector will plug into the OEM heated grip connector if you prefer that to splicing. It's in a difficult place to make a splice.
Thanks GreyWolf... It does look to be a pretty tight area. :weapons_90:
BigCanoe
11-13-2008, 09:58 AM
To those that have tried grip heaters (under standard grips) vs. heated grips, what do you prefer? The Oxford's look nice and plush to me :)
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-14-2008, 09:56 AM
Update on the Trackside grips. I recieved the grips the other day and its very nice equipment. I liked the large round dial for turning the heat on and off. The only downside is the grips ends. If you are using the bar end weights or upgraded handguards which attaches inside of the handlebars then you will have to enlarge the ends opening. On the throttle side I ended up just completely removing the end and making it flush like the stock grip. That way my throttle moves without any restriction. That was about the only issue I had with the install.
BigCanoe
11-14-2008, 10:06 AM
Thats what I was thinking about getting, the controls looked nice. Can you send (or post) some pics when you are done, I would like to see the results, where you mounded the knob, etc.
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-14-2008, 10:25 PM
Thats what I was thinking about getting, the controls looked nice. Can you send (or post) some pics when you are done, I would like to see the results, where you mounded the knob, etc.
I can get you some picts up tomorrow after I get home from work. Today has been a long work day and Im just getting home. I should get some up for you tomorrow evening.
BigCanoe
11-14-2008, 10:39 PM
Cool, thanks man
KZDon
11-14-2008, 11:27 PM
Thanks GreyWolf... It does look to be a pretty tight area. :weapons_90:
Loosen the rad mounting bolts and tip the rad forward about an inch and a half. Access to the wiring loom is much easier.
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-15-2008, 05:31 PM
Loosen the rad mounting bolts and tip the rad forward about an inch and a half. Access to the wiring loom is much easier.
My hands are still to big to get in and wire it up the way i do wiring so I'll order one of the suzuki connects to make it easier.
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-15-2008, 06:05 PM
Cool, thanks man
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/fostersnc/V-strom/100_2402.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/fostersnc/V-strom/100_2401.jpghttp://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/fostersnc/V-strom/100_2399.jpg
BigCanoe, If you dont have the hand protectors like me the knob will be closer in. I had to move my handles in some so the ends would not hit the protector bars. I hope this helps.
BigCanoe
11-17-2008, 11:21 AM
Looks nice! Is that the control knob on your bar? Very slick.
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-17-2008, 01:12 PM
Looks nice! Is that the control knob on your bar? Very slick.
Yep that's the control knob for the heat. I used it the other morning going into work and it really worked well with gloves on. The knob is easy to turn and adjust the temp setting. If I didn't have the real had protectors than it would set about an inch closer to grip. But that is a small price to me to have a quality set of hand protectors.
Here is a better pict. http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/fostersnc/V-strom/heatedcontrol.jpg
BigCanoe
11-19-2008, 12:55 PM
Do the controls look waterproof? I would hope so, but you never know :)
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-19-2008, 11:03 PM
Do the controls look waterproof? I would hope so, but you never know :)
It looks to be... I'll find out for sure when I get stuck out in the rain... ;)
acormier7
11-25-2008, 07:48 PM
Anyone have good pic's of Oxford grip install, aspecially the throttle side.
Thanks,
acormier7
11-25-2008, 10:34 PM
Found it.
http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18813
T3/T4 Hybrid on your install did you end up wiring to the stock connector? Does it turn off with the ignition?
T3/T4 Hybrid
11-29-2008, 07:09 PM
T3/T4 Hybrid on your install did you end up wiring to the stock connector? Does it turn off with the ignition?
Not at this time but it will soon... I waiting to get my stock connector in. ;)
rockitcity
11-30-2008, 10:25 PM
Hello all,
I just installed the Cycle Gear "Trackside" heated grips on my K7 DL650 today. Of course it had to be about 80 degrees in LA today, but it will get colder. Here are a few observations:
Bar ends: Easy remove and install. Just loosen the screw a couple of turns and gently tap it. The bar end should slide right out in one piece. Mine were already kind of loose, so I put them in a little tighter on reinstall.
Removing old grips: Clutch side pretty easy with compressed air to break the glue bond. Twist and pull to remove. Used "Goof-off" to remove the old glue. Throttle side has no glue, but has a ridge on the outer end. A bit tougher to remove, but I folded the old grip back on itself and it came off intact.
Installing heated grips: You have to cut away the outer rubber end of the new grips to reinstall the bar ends. Cut exactly where you think you should and they will come off pretty cleanly. The inside of these grips are hard plastic, so you can trim the rubber right up to it and it will look like stock, especially after you reinstall the bar ends. Clutch side fits fairly loosely, so you'll need some glue. The glue that came with my kit was already dried in the sealed tube, so I used some rubber cement and snugged up the bar end against it to hold it in place. Throttle tube has a plastic ridge that will need to be removed before installing the new grips. I used a quarter-round file to take off the whole ridge, shortening the tube 1/4" or so. The throttle side grip is a tight fit. Be careful that you know where to route the wiring before you start to put it on. I ran mine back towards me to the bottom so that I could easily zip-tie it to the existing wiring. I had to tap the grip on with a rubber mallet. No glue necessary.
I used the Eastern Beaver heated grips adapter to plug into the original wiring harness. This is a real chore. There are many posts describing this bit of hand torture, but I was able to do it without removing the tank or the plastic. It took a lot longer than it should. I'm not sure it was worth it. Might have been better to just add a relay fuse block and run the wiring back to that. More on that later.
The controller has a nice feel and is easy to work with gloves on. I mounted it on the left bar next to the mirror mounting bracket. This seems pretty natural. There is a handle bar mount adapter included in the kit. I removed the stick-on plate from the controller and screwed the handlebar mount backplate directly on it. Not sure if this is what they had in mind, but it works fine. There doesn't seem to be any particular waterproofing on the backplate, but it is a tight fit, so hopefully it won't be a problem, not that we have many rainy days in SoCal anyway.
Wiring: This was a bit of a chore. The kit comes with all the connectors attached, but with a lot of wire. This makes for easy plug-and-play, but kind of messy. The main problem was the power lead from the controller. It is clearly designed to be run back to the battery, and the fuse is at the battery end. However, since I used the aforementioned adapter, I had way too much wire. I considered cutting off the controller power connector and wiring it directly to the Posi-locks on the Eastern Beaver adapter, but I kind of wanted to keep the fuse in line. So, I ended up cutting off the fuse with about 6 inches of lead from the wire, taking apart its power connector + side on the other end, and soldered the fuse in-line directly to the connector, removing about three feet of extra wire. I then wired this short adapter to the Posi-locks and plugged it into the existing controller connector. The result is a factory-look install without all the extra wire bundled under the fairing. I did have to zip-tie some of the wiring under the handlebars, but it looks pretty clean.
Went for a short ride this evening, and these things get pretty toasty. Guess I won't know for sure until I have my early morning commute, but I think I will be happy with this mod. Total cost was about $70, including the adapter, shipping and tax. Of course, there was a whole day lost in labor, but as the ads say, that's...priceless. :D
Bob
Red-Strom
12-04-2008, 12:28 AM
I have the OEM heated grips on my DL1000K6. They work great! The dealer threw them in when I purchased (along with a helment and Joe Rocket Ballistic pants and jacket - yeah I worked him good!!), but I had to install them myself. It was actually pretty easy. I recommend them.
greywolf
12-04-2008, 12:48 AM
I'm glad yours are working well. However, many reported them heating unevenly and they are very expensive compared to solutions that have had much fewer reported problems.
Red-Strom
12-05-2008, 12:15 AM
They do heat unevenly from left to right and some around the circumference of one. It is noticeable but not so much that it bothers me. So most have better luck huh? Well, the fact that the dealer threw them in on my bike (which was already $1k under MSRP) I can't complain too much ..... okay yeah I can but I don't need to!!
Stay away from the Trackside grips from Cycle Gear. I just returned a pair a yesterday. They were abosulte crap! Barely even got warm. When I told the guy at Cycle Gear how horribly they worked, he just nodded and said, "I know." Spend $10 more and get the Oxford Heaterz. EVERY review I have read about them is very positive. I'm ordering them to replace the crappy Trackside grips.
my timing sucks just ordered the trackside grips and along comes this review from another thread on this forum. T3 and others what is your experience with the trackside? I like the idea of its control unit but do not want to cut the ends off(to allow for bar ends) just to find out they were a waste of time and money.
rockitcity
12-17-2008, 11:44 AM
Stay away from the Trackside grips from Cycle Gear. I just returned a pair a yesterday. They were abosulte crap! Barely even got warm. When I told the guy at Cycle Gear how horribly they worked, he just nodded and said, "I know." Spend $10 more and get the Oxford Heaterz. EVERY review I have read about them is very positive. I'm ordering them to replace the crappy Trackside grips.
my timing sucks just ordered the trackside grips and along comes this review from another thread on this forum. T3 and others what is your experience with the trackside? I like the idea of its control unit but do not want to cut the ends off(to allow for bar ends) just to find out they were a waste of time and money.
Well that's a little disappointing. I have to say (never having had heated grips before), that my initial ride with the Trackside grips did keep my hands warm enough that I turned down the control on them. But I am in LA, so I haven't had any really cold rides yet, and it has been raining this week so I haven't ridden.
I checked out the Oxford heaterz at this site http://www.lockitt.com/AccessoriesGrips3.htm#oxhg and except for the "Oxford"logo, their grips look exactly like the Trackside ones. Even the controller on the "Custom" set looks like the Trackside controller (although it is chrome plated). So I don't know about the original critique. It would seem likely that the wrap-arounds get hotter than the actual heated grips, especially through heavy gloves, but the Trackside grips do work.
Bob
awesomepaw
12-17-2008, 11:16 PM
If you are using the bar end weights or upgraded handguards which attaches inside of the handlebars then you will have to enlarge the ends opening. On the throttle side I ended up just completely removing the end and making it flush like the stock grip. That way my throttle moves without any restriction. That was about the only issue I had with the install.
I do have the handguards, and as I need some new gauntlet gloves ($$$), I am considering installing something like this (Oxford Heaterz) to give me some heat during the departure of our 110F temps.
So you CAN simply plug these in? Is the Eastern Beaver Heated Grips Adaptor the way to do this? I am paranoid about füäöling something up.
:(As straight forward as it seems on paper, electrical baffles me. Story- I lit my YZF600 on fire due to a wire grounding:bom_shout:, lucky me- i was there to douse the fire under the tank.
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Stay away from the Trackside grips from Cycle Gear. I just returned a pair a yesterday. They were abosulte crap! Barely even got warm. When I told the guy at Cycle Gear how horribly they worked, he just nodded and said, "I know." Spend $10 more and get the Oxford Heaterz. EVERY review I have read about them is very positive. I'm ordering them to replace the crappy Trackside grips.
+1 on the absolute crap. If you are not moving, your hands are chilly, and you don't have gloves on you can feel something that is almost like warm. I just returned from a ride after the install, mid 30s. I am wondering if my fingers are about to turn black and fall off. You can not feel any warmth at all through the gloves (I am not exaggerating this time ) Trackside Grips are totally worthless. They have absolutely no detectable heat through gloves, I hope cycle gear takes em back. They look great, neat heat troller(except its useless, on full high they barely get warm) larger than stock grips which is great. Now I am considering symtec over grips under puppies. Probably what I will try now.
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sleahouse
01-04-2009, 04:12 PM
I have Hotgrips brand heated grips installed and wired into the factory connector behind the radiator. They get very toasty. I rode 100 miles through the high desert this morning at temps of 27 degrees and my hands stayed warm. Feet got a little cold, but I should have my Gerbing's heated insoles coming via UPS tomorrow to fix that problem.
boneyfreak
03-07-2009, 09:53 PM
Good idea to use this if connecting anything to battery...
Radio Shack part# 98-696
or Chargeguard which is a sensing unit and timed capabilities.
or any 4prong 12v relay from the local dismantler boneyard...usually .25 to 1.00 $.
Chargeguards show up on ebay about 2-3 a month...10-30 bucks.
Sealing a 12v relay and its connectors with a condom is a good idea.
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