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Black Lab
04-21-2008, 07:41 PM
I waited to change my front springs until I was ready to replace my sprockets and chain. By working on the rear, I figured it would make working on the front easier.

01 - Put the bike on centerstand with the transmission in neutral.
02 - Remove front sprocket cover.
03 - Place pipe across swingarm, through rear wheel so that one of the
spokes can "snub" up against it. You need to do this to remove the very
difficult counter sprocket nut.
04 - Heat up front sprocket nut. Loosen nut, let it cool before removing from
the shaft.
05 - Remove rear wheel.
06 - Split chain, (with manufactured "cutter" tool, or grinder and screw driver
method.)
07 - Remove chain.
08 - Remove front sprocket nut.
09 - Place jackstands or blocking under each swingarm end.
10 - Loosen front tube cap bolts, DON'T remove yet!
11 - Loosen upper clamp bolts.
12 - Place floor jack underneath skid plate and jack up the bike until there is
equal pressure on floor jack, centerstand and jackstands.
13 - Remove brake line connections and brake calipers from tubes and fender.
14 - Remove front wheel and speedo gizmo.
15 - Remove fender and forkbrace if installed.
16 - Loosen both lower tube clamp bolts one tube at a time. KEEP one hand
on the tube during removal! It WILL slide right out and hit the floor if
you don't.
17 - Keep the tube vertical with bottom on the floor and remove the tube
cap. Be careful, due to spring pressure, the cap will want to "pop" off.
18 - Slightly compress the tube with your hand to expose the top of the
spring. Hook a fingertip onto the spring and slowly raise it out of the
tube letting fork oil drain back into the tube.
19 - Place removed spring in a suitable container to continue draining oil.
20 - Invert the tube, holding it in your hands and dump and "pump" all of the
old oil out of the tube into a container. (I used a bread pan to pour the
old tube oil into and also stood each spring in as well to drain old oil off
of them.)
21 - While I worked on the second tube, I let the first tube drain some more
oil by standing it on end, on top of a rag to absorb left over oil.
22 - Do the same to the second tube.
23 - While the second tube is doing it's "upside down finish drain", compress
the first tube and add your fork oil.

I used a 50/50 mix of 15w and 10w oil resulting in 12.5w. I mixed the oil in a Pyrex 2 cup measuring cup. I poured the oil into the tube and "pumped" it until all of the air was out of the valves at the bottom of the tube. I set the first tube aside to let the "pumped" air bubbles dissapate. I did the same to the second tube.

24 - While the second tube sat, "airing out", I topped off the first tube with
oil to the prescribed level. Sonic Springs recommends a distance of
150mm from the top of the compressed tube down to the surface of the
oil. I measured 150mm along a turkey baster and placed a piece of tape
on that line. I poured more oil then I needed into the tube and sucked
the excess out with the baster, holding the tape line against the top
edge of the fork tube. I squirted the excess oil into the second tube.
25 - I did the same for the second tube. I needed just a "dab" more oil then
what was shipped to me. I used just a squirt of old oil to bring the levels
up to measurement.
26 - Slightly decompress the tube by sliding it apart, keeping it vertical with
the base on the floor.
27 - Slide your new spring down into the tube.
28 - Sonic ships 4 new washers and spacers with their springs. You have to
cut the spacers. They are schedule 40 PVC pipe.
29 - I chose to use Sonic's washers and the OEM steel spacers. I placed a
washer on top of the spring. I placed the spacer on top of the washer.
I very carefully hand screwed on the fork cap. BE CAREFUL here! You
will be trying to screw the cap back on, WHILE compressing the spring a
little. It is very easy to crossthread the fork cap while doing this. You
will tighten the fork cap to spec once it is installed back in the clamps.
30 - Do the same for the second tube, hand tightening the fork cap.
31 - Slide one tube back into the clamps, aligning the bottom of the fork cap and the top of the fork tube with the top of the upper fork clamp.
32 - With one hand holding the tube, grab a wrench and snug the two bolts on the lower fork clamp.
33 - Now snug the upper bolt.
34 - Do the same for the second tube.
35 - Torque all clamp bolts to spec.
36 - Torque fork caps to spec.
37 - Install front fender.
38 - Install front wheel and speedo gizmo and torque axel and pinch bolt.
39 - Lower floor jack so front wheel is on the ground.
40 - Install brake line connections and calipers. Add threadlock to caliper
bolts and torque.
41 - Remove old rear sprocket from rear wheel.
42 - Install new rear sprocket, add threadlock and torque to spec.
43 - Install rear wheel.
44 - Lay out old chain on floor and lay new chain next to it. Cut new chain
to length. 2007 DL-650 = 118 links.
45 - Thread new chain over both sprockets.
46 - Place a wedge under rear wheel so it won't spin.
47 - Rivet new master link, (grease it first), using the rear spocket as
a "holding device" for each end of the chain while using your chain
riveting tool.
48 - Remove wooden wedge under rear wheel. Place pipe back on the swing
arm, through the rear wheel.
49 - Add threadlock to front sprocket shaft and tighten nut to spec. Fold
over washer.
50 - Replace front sprocket cover.

Ride away and readjust chain after 200 miles or so.

Cost = About $100 for springs and oil. About $285 for front sprocket, rear sprocket, D.I.D. 525 chain and R.K. chain cutter, press and rivet tool.

Took me about 4 hrs to complete this. I'm sure I've forgotten a step or two and have one out of sequence, but I figure if I can do this job, anyone can!

Here are two pics of the setup.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg216/barry_buchanan/2008%20Modifications/SpringReplacement-RearView.jpg


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg216/barry_buchanan/2008%20Modifications/SpringReplacement-FrontView.jpg

Boondocker
04-21-2008, 07:54 PM
Thanks for this. I have a fork spring install pending.

Cheff
04-21-2008, 07:54 PM
That's a good write up man. I wish you had done your valves as well. I have gold compression and rebound valves sitting in the garage waiting on the Elka shock so I can do it all at once, and would love some pics of the total fork tear down.

Black Lab
04-21-2008, 09:09 PM
I wish you had done your valves as well. I have gold compression and rebound valves sitting in the garage waiting on the Elka shock so I can do it all at once, and would love some pics of the total fork tear down.

Thank you. In answer to your wish, it's a simple matter of $$$$. I can't afford the valves or the Elka shock right now. Adding the valves later is not that difficult a job now that I know how to do most of it. Having said that, I don't think I will be adding the valves later. I am very happy with the front end, (springs & forkbrace).

I DO want to add an Elka when I can make it happen. $$$ Timing for me right now.

It's kind of a fun job to do, good luck!

B.

stromnewbie
04-21-2008, 10:49 PM
..but will still pay a dealer's service monkey to have it done for me, cuz I don't wrench :(:(

bobosmite
05-01-2008, 10:44 AM
Okay, so I got a set of Sonic Springs yesterday. The devil on my shoulder has a Stromtrooper tattoo and he chased off the angel a long time ago. Thanks for the detailed how-to. I have only one question, for now: What is the best way to re-align the forks? Did you mark the alignment first, before removal? I was thinking about fitting them loosely in the clamps and screwing in the axle to align them? Do you think that would work?

roger123
05-01-2008, 11:01 AM
Okay, so I got a set of Sonic Springs yesterday. The devil on my shoulder has a Stromtrooper tattoo and he chased off the angel a long time ago. Thanks for the detailed how-to. I have only one question, for now: What is the best way to re-align the forks? Did you mark the alignment first, before removal? I was thinking about fitting them loosely in the clamps and screwing in the axle to align them? Do you think that would work?


They align themselves when you put the wheel on. The chrome part is clamped in the triple clamps and the lower black part is free rotate.

bobosmite
05-01-2008, 01:43 PM
Ah, I can see it now. I know what I'm doing this weekend. Thanks!

Imagine
05-12-2008, 08:48 PM
I just finished my spring and fork oil upgrade. Wow! It feels so much better. It has a much nicer, and sportier ride to it. It's definitely a mod that is money well spent. I should have done this mod sooner!

JBHRACING
07-02-2008, 10:48 PM
When Do You Do The Fork Oil And Chains On These Bikes Typically?

roger123
07-03-2008, 06:43 AM
I have 19K on the original chain/sprockets and they still look pretty good to me (not much off-roading).

I did the fork oil when I got the Sonics and plan to do it again the next time I change the front tire, which should be around 23K or so.

bald blur
07-12-2008, 03:57 PM
Thanks for the write up.
I was just getting everything together to do this today and realized I don't have the gigantic 19MM hex key needed for the front axle. Looked on Oneida and Sears web sites to find an appropriate tool with no luck. Any suggestions as to where I can get it or do I have to overpay at my local stealer? If I loosen the pinch bolts can I get it out without the special tool?
Thanks in advance for any help.

Never mind I did another search at Sears and found what I needed:D

Vstromper
07-12-2008, 04:35 PM
Thanks for the write up.
I was just getting everything together to do this today and realized I don't have the gigantic 19MM hex key needed for the front axle. Looked on Oneida and Sears web sites to find an appropriate tool with no luck. Any suggestions as to where I can get it or do I have to overpay at my local stealer? If I loosen the pinch bolts can I get it out without the special tool?
Thanks in advance for any help.

Never mind I did another search at Sears and found what I needed:D

I know you've alread got this handled but for others:

I spent $20 bucks on a 19mm allen wrench from NAPA and then one of my friends said, why didn't you just get a bolt with a 19mm head and jam two nuts on it, put the head in the axel bolt and use a regular wrench on the jammed nut?

I should have asked him first not only is that cheaper, it's lighter to carry around.

Black Lab
07-13-2008, 02:52 PM
Thanks for the write up.
I was just getting everything together to do this today and realized I don't have the gigantic 19MM hex key needed for the front axle. Looked on Oneida and Sears web sites to find an appropriate tool with no luck. Any suggestions as to where I can get it or do I have to overpay at my local stealer? If I loosen the pinch bolts can I get it out without the special tool?
Thanks in advance for any help.

Never mind I did another search at Sears and found what I needed:D

The front axle on a 2007 is 12mm. Not sure what a 2003 is.

Good Luck!

Barry

bald blur
07-14-2008, 11:25 PM
I know you've alread got this handled but for others:

I spent $20 bucks on a 19mm allen wrench from NAPA and then one of my friends said, why didn't you just get a bolt with a 19mm head and jam two nuts on it, put the head in the axel bolt and use a regular wrench on the jammed nut?

I should have asked him first not only is that cheaper, it's lighter to carry around.

My only concern with that "tool" is that it will be a challenge to actually torque to specs...I do this pretty consistantly now because I screwed up a thing or two by over and under torquing.

greaseman
07-15-2008, 12:37 AM
I know you've alread got this handled but for others:

I spent $20 bucks on a 19mm allen wrench from NAPA and then one of my friends said, why didn't you just get a bolt with a 19mm head and jam two nuts on it, put the head in the axel bolt and use a regular wrench on the jammed nut?

I should have asked him first not only is that cheaper, it's lighter to carry around.

Yep, I tried that bolt with 2 nuts idea myself. Turns out the bolt head is slightly smaller diameter than the allen wrench. I ended up jamming it there pretty good. Just to add insult to injury, the head broke off in the allen socket. Spent the next 2 hours will the drill and screw extractors wrestling that little bugger out of there.

Went to the auto parts store the next day to pick up the proper tool. :rolleyes:

ksievers
07-26-2008, 10:34 PM
just wondering if there is a downside or negative trade-off to firming up the front end with new springs and oil. I will rarely if ever ride off road.. want great handling on the road, no need to see how hard a ride I can make it though... as in not feel like I'm riding on a rail.

(already did the SuperBrace and I am astonished how much that improved handling, esp in high winds and crosswinds.. huge improvement there.)

Do the new springs make all better with no downside?

thanks -

Black Lab
07-26-2008, 10:51 PM
just wondering if there is a downside or negative trade-off to firming up the front end with new springs and oil. I will rarely if ever ride off road.. want great handling on the road, no need to see how hard a ride I can make it though... as in not feel like I'm riding on a rail.

(already did the SuperBrace and I am astonished how much that improved handling, esp in high winds and crosswinds.. huge improvement there.)

Do the new springs make all better with no downside?

thanks -

The only downside to upgrading your front suspension, is spending money. The amount of money you spend will depend on what products you purchase and if you do the work yourself, or have someone else do it for you.

Everyone who has upgraded their front suspension will testify that it was worth the expense. New springs will run you about $80 - $120 depending on what brand you purchase. You will also need new fork oil. The only special tool that you may need to buy is a hex wrench for removing the front axle. On a 2007 DL-650, that is 12mm, (I bought a 1/2" drive socket/hex wrench so that I could use my torque wrench to get the axle to spec.).

So, for about $100 to $140, at the low end, (you are doing the work), you can have a safer and better ride. I am adding emulators this week for an additional $170, (delivered to my door.).

Hope this biased opinion helps!!!

Barry B.

ksievers
07-26-2008, 11:12 PM
Yes, it does help, and I appreciate the feedback. I am just now realizing that Rich (Sonic Springs) and I are practically neighbors, so I'll also feel good about helping him stay in business. I'm a little worried about the install but I'll figure it out...

thanks again -

MightyShep
07-27-2008, 12:33 PM
Be advised that the suspension on the DL1000 is NOT the same as the DL650. Check your service manual before you start on this project as the 1K will require a little more work than the 650.