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post #1 of 28 Old 02-14-2009, 09:27 PM Thread Starter
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Heel/toe shifter

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I am in Thailand (have a Thai wife) in my wife's home village. Her brother has an older Suzuki 50 cc scooter with a heel/toe shifter. Why don't we have this in the west ? You can upshift by pressing down on the heel, downshift like normal by pressing on the toe. Since it is still one lever mounted to the shaft, it might cost you only an additional $.35-$.50 to produce the longer lever, but it would allow us to never have to put our foot under the front shifter again, making for easier riding, and less chance of getting our foot caught between the tarmac and the shifter while cornering.
Also why do you have a 2 piston caliper on the rear brake of this little bike ?
Thanks Suzuki. I hope you are listening, although I rather doubt it.
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Dear jeffster,
want a heel/toe shifter? buy a harley or any other big cruiser/tourer. or if you're worried about your toes rig up a set of floor boards from one of those bikes too.
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Dorzak, are you serious ? I wouldn't be caught dead on a Harley, I just like the idea of a heel/toe shifter. I didn't even know Harleys had one. I only have one set of toes; perhaps you have a spare set. Sorry, bud, I have already crashed hard. If you have ever done that, you might understand my concern. Try a little empathy. Anyway, this thread is to Suzuki, not to you.
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The majority of the Harleys around here have dumped the "Heel-Toe" in favor of the single peg to give them more room to adjust the foot position.
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I can't think of any heel/toe shifters on a bike without floorboards right offhand. I think you're targeting the wrong company. The chances a bike manufacturer will put a heel toe shifter on a sport or dual sport bike, and an in production one at that, are slim to none. A request to aftermarket suppliers would be more likely to get results and even that would be iffy. The rear brake has a single piston caliper. Also, if you need to upshift while leaned over, you are cornering wrong. Upshifting should be done after accelerating out of the corner.

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Dear Suzuki,
I am in Thailand (have a Thai wife) in my wife's home village. Her brother has an older Suzuki 50 cc scooter with a heel/toe shifter. Why don't we have this in the west ? You can upshift by pressing down on the heel, downshift like normal by pressing on the toe. Since it is still one lever mounted to the shaft, it might cost you only an additional $.35-$.50 to produce the longer lever, but it would allow us to never have to put our foot under the front shifter again, making for easier riding, and less chance of getting our foot caught between the tarmac and the shifter while cornering.
Also why do you have a 2 piston caliper on the rear brake of this little bike ?
Thanks Suzuki. I hope you are listening, although I rather doubt it.
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You're an idiot. Stop smoking that Thai weed and learn to ride. If you don't know why a bike like the V-Strom doesn't have a heel/toe shifter you shouldn't be riding it or anything else.

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You're an idiot. Stop smoking that Thai weed and learn to ride. If you don't know why a bike like the V-Strom doesn't have a heel/toe shifter you shouldn't be riding it or anything else.
No, he's not an idiot. He has his opinion just like everyone else even though it presumes that others want the same thing he does. Personally if my bike had a heel shifter I'd take a hacksaw to it just to get it out of my way, but to each their own.

Greywolf is right. This needs to be aimed at the aftermarket companies because only a small minority would be interested in one and Suzuki would be far more interested in what the majority wants.

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It was just a thought; I don't think Suzuki could be bothered much with our opinions.

Yes, O.K., an aftermarket item.

No, I don't smoke weed. I was over it by 1974.

Yes, I do know how to ride, but after a hard crash my perspective has changed somewhat. You can't grasp that if it hasn't happened to you.

Greywolf, you've never come hard out of a corner, ran out of revs midway through it, and had to upshift while still cornering ?

The scooter had a 2-piston rear caliper, I know that Wees have a 1 piston rear.

FYI - I don't think they have Wees here, but I can check if anyone is interested. Went to an import moto accessory store today on Rachadapisek Road, BKK, the owner asked me what I rode, I said Suzuki V-Strom 650, and she gave me a quizzical look like she had never heard of it. They do have some big Yamahas here, however.

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Dorzak, are you serious ? I wouldn't be caught dead on a Harley, I just like the idea of a heel/toe shifter. I didn't even know Harleys had one. I only have one set of toes; perhaps you have a spare set. Sorry, bud, I have already crashed hard. If you have ever done that, you might understand my concern. Try a little empathy. Anyway, this thread is to Suzuki, not to you.
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just relax. suzuki ain't going to read this stuff.
how could anybody NOT know that harley's have them? actually, they put them on bikes whith floor boards because you CAN'T get your toe under the lever (unless they adjust them rediculously high).
try an air shifter, designed for sport bikes. use it for upshifting whenever you're concerned about yur toes. but why would a set of smashed up toes stop you from riding anyway? i met this dude had a fake left foot. he was on an extremely used XR650. he rides all the trails around here and his bike shows it.
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Greywolf, you've never come hard out of a corner, ran out of revs midway through it, and had to upshift while still cornering ?
Never. Not once. I can't imagine being close to redline while in a corner.

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