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post #11 of 53 Old 05-01-2016, 12:31 PM
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You don't really need more ground clearance, and a proper suspension would make better use of what you have. A robust skid plate can take the place of suspension travel along with adaptive riding style. You can keep the 21" front wheel. Tall height and 21" wheels make for less inspiring performance on paved roads and let's face it, that is where 98% of the mile put on V STroms are.

Bikes are a compromise, and none greater than asking a bike to work "off road" and then get you onto the highway for the 200 mile trip back home. At really good suspension and brakes not from a 1938 Indian would help both highway and off road riding. The DL 650 engine is second to none, they have a real gem there. No it won't outrun an 800, but sometimes that isn't important.
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Plus the length of the vtwin makes for a long bike, difficult to wheely over logs. 2 cylinder is much more compact if you don't mind the vibes.

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Actually the v twin DL 650 engine is considered smoother than the Triumph triple. They tend to have a bit of buzz to them. Not bad, but a characteristic.

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I agree 100% Big Adventure bikes are so-so off road, that's why I think a re-designed DL could make it's mark.

RS, yes it does have a buzz to it. I read some guys could not stand the exhaust noise....didn't bother me at all....kinda reminds me of the old KZ1000's. As for a 21" front wheel, have you ridden a Tiger 800 on the street? I could not tell there was any negative road handling capability vs my DL. The reliability thing is really something to consider....wonder if I can jam a DL650 engine into a Tiger

I think the DR is a great bike, pretty sure I don't want to go cross country on it though even though I know lots do.

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As for a 21" front wheel, have you ridden a Tiger 800 on the street? I could not tell there was any negative road handling capability vs my DL.
Yes. The gyroscopic effect of a 21" front wheel makes it more difficult to tip into a turn at faster speeds compared to a 19". Not a lot, but it's noticeable.

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The reliability thing is really something to consider....wonder if I can jam a DL650 engine into a Tiger
For a lot less money, you could put a decent suspension on the DL. Start taking hub measurements, too. With a little machining of the spacer and axle, you could probably put a dual rotor 21" wheel on the DL. You'd just have to figure out something to do with the fender and track down the proper bearings.

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For a lot less money, you could put a decent suspension on the DL. Start taking hub measurements, too. With a little machining of the spacer and axle, you could probably put a dual rotor 21" wheel on the DL. You'd just have to figure out something to do with the fender and track down the proper bearings.
Don't think this has not crossed my mind. There was a guy that did that, can't remember if it was here or ADV. If I recall, it was not an easy conversion.

I can see it now.....RichlandRick 21" DL650 conversion kits....$999

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Don't think this has not crossed my mind. There was a guy that did that, can't remember if it was here or ADV. If I recall, it was not an easy conversion.

I can see it now.....RichlandRick 21" DL650 conversion kits....$999
I've seen guys swap out the front suspension to allow for a 21" front, but I don't recall seeing having the axle and spacer machined. I ditched the 19" for a 17" on my bike, and it was super easy. Found a guy with a lathe in his garage, gave him the specs, and he cut down the axle and spacer for me. I threw the bearings in, put the DL rotors on the new wheel, and away I went.

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I looked at a few used tiger 800 and f800gs. They sure look nice and may have more tricked up suspension, but, they all had warranty claims in the first 30000km (oil leak, coolant leak, abs problems) I have owned many Jap bikes and all have been flawless. If you want a bigger more dirt oriented bike from Japan it exists: the new AT. It ain't any cheaper than its European brothers but it's very likely to be more reliable and capable.

Many years ago I toured Canada on a gpz305... It's not all about displacement!

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When the new iteration Tiger 800's first came out, I got pretty worked up. Thought maybe I'd wait a few years and pick up a used adventure ready XRX. Ultimately though, I thought about weight, my short inseam and reliability/dealer network and went the other way. Just bought a new CB500X.
In the couple weeks I've owned it, it is quickly growing on me. I will always be an admirer of the DL650 and will be hard pressed to sell mine. However, I think I made the right decision for me. I like to feel in command of my ride and not worry about parking lot maneuvers. After 42k miles, I've become pretty masterful with my Strom, but a 30 " inseam isn't something I can do anything about. Or the fact that I'm turning 67 in a couple months. If I were a younger, bigger guy, I'd be much better equipped to own a Tiger.
The suspension, brakes and seat on my new bike are better stock than the DL with upgrades. And, the fuel economy is outstanding.
They all have 2 wheels. That's the best part..
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I'm not going to do anything until I can ride a 2015+ DL650XT. I might have to ride up to Ohio and steal Big B's while he ain't lookin

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