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Old 06-18-2013, 01:39 PM
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That only shuts off the motor, does nothing for gravity.

and I'm unaware of any condition where I would want to kill power to a moving bike. - but I may be uninformed.
Assuming you are in the lowest gear and are still going too fast, killing the engine will at least allow the back tire to be locked up, providing some measure of braking force. Be ready to feather the clutch to allow the rear wheel to turn some, which will allow you some measure of better control when the engine is dead.

Another good time to use the kill switch is if you are climbing a hill, and it becomes apparent that you are not going to make it. Hit the kill switch as your forward momentum stops and do NOT pull in the clutch nor pull on the front brake lever, and it's pointless to try and balance well enough to hit the rear brake: besides, your dead engine is holding the rear wheel still. Your now-dead engine holds the rear wheel in a fixed position, and, even if you are sliding backwards, you can actually steer if you don't touch that front brake. Once stopped, feather the clutch lever to allow the rear wheel to release slightly, and you can work your way to turning around so your front is facing downhill, at which point you can restart the bike and come back down the way you came.

Best to practice this a few times to truly understand it, prior to actually needing to use it.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:44 PM
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Most likely, the rear brake was useless because of the ABS.

If you don't have traction, the ABS will essentially disable the brakes.

I learned the hard way, under similar circumstances.

On unfamiliar gravel and dirt roads, especially where you may encounter a steep downgrade, it's best to disable the ABS. This can be done by removing the ABS fuses from the fuseblock or by wiring in a switch.
Would strongly advise the OP to take Nrom's advice here, as inspiration to at least go take the seat off and familiarize yourself with the location of the ABS fuse, even pull it and take a quick ride around the bock to confirm the ABS alert light stays on.

It is worth the peace of mind alone when you need it.

I've been exploring forest roads for a couple of years here in Virgina and getting away with pulling supid cr@p but felt my luck was running out, especially since I run Battlewings. So a couple of weekends ago when I finally explored a dirt road that I'd had ny eye on for a while, with many switchbacks and sheer drops coming down a steep mountainside, I pulled the fuse just to be on the safe side. Really was glad I did, and I was reminded what fun it was to ride proper dirtbike style by locking up the rear a bit.

Better to have done it and not need it than vice versa....
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That only shuts off the motor, does nothing for gravity.

and I'm unaware of any condition where I would want to kill power to a moving bike. - but I may be uninformed.
It shuts down the ABS system with the motor allowing for normal braking, plus engine braking.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:48 PM
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Would strongly advise the OP to take Nrom's advice here, as inspiration to at least go take the seat off and familiarize yourself with the location of the ABS fuse, even pull it and take a quick ride around the bock to confirm the ABS alert light stays on.

It is worth the peace of mind alone when you need it.

I've been exploring forest roads for a couple of years here in Virgina and getting away with pulling supid cr@p but felt my luck was running out, especially since I run Battlewings. So a couple of weekends ago when I finally explored a dirt road that I'd had ny eye on for a while, with many switchbacks and sheer drops coming down a steep mountainside, I pulled the fuse just to be on the safe side. Really was glad I did, and I was reminded what fun it was to ride proper dirtbike style by locking up the rear a bit.

Better to have done it and not need it than vice versa....
Point taken. I am reading everyone's advice.
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Assuming you are in the lowest gear and are still going too fast, killing the engine will at least allow the back tire to be locked up, providing some measure of braking force. Be ready to feather the clutch to allow the rear wheel to turn some, which will allow you some measure of better control when the engine is dead.

Another good time to use the kill switch is if you are climbing a hill, and it becomes apparent that you are not going to make it. Hit the kill switch as your forward momentum stops and do NOT pull in the clutch nor pull on the front brake lever, and it's pointless to try and balance well enough to hit the rear brake: besides, your dead engine is holding the rear wheel still...
That makes perfect sense... learn something new everyday... much obliged.
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Excuse me if i'm wrong, But i believe if you hit the "kill" the ABS still works with the bike off, you have to turn off the key in my experience (On the 2012)
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Excuse me if i'm wrong, But i believe if you hit the "kill" the ABS still works with the bike off, you have to turn off the key in my experience (On the 2012)
I guess I'll have to try that after work
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Is the ABS Fuse easily identified? (sorry if this is a stupid question)

Or can someone post a picture of the DL650 2012+ fuse box with an arrow pointing to the ABS fuse?

Secondly, I saw another post about installing a ABS cut off switch. Is that pretty much a plug and play deal or how complicated is that?

Not too much of a gear head but do plan to take my bike off-road.
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Is the ABS Fuse easily identified? (sorry if this is a stupid question)

Or can someone post a picture of the DL650 2012+ fuse box with an arrow pointing to the ABS fuse?

Secondly, I saw another post about installing a ABS cut off switch. Is that pretty much a plug and play deal or how complicated is that?

Not too much of a gear head but do plan to take my bike off-road.
Check out eastern beaver, his kits make things fast and easy!

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Point taken. I am reading everyone's advice.
Hey, if you make it up to my neck of the woods, here's a 40-mile route of "Cadillac Gravel" that does not require the deactivation of your ABS and is Trailwings-friendly:

NC-215 S/Parkway to NC-191 N/Brevard Rd - Google Maps
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