I was talking to some fellow riders and one guy was trying to convince me to place magnets on the oil filter. The idea is that this would hold metal shavings in the oil filter, and transforms a regular oil filter into a "Super Filter" . I went home and did some on-line research, seems like others hold this same view, and there are various magnet thing-a-ma-jigs that be purchase to go on the filter :nerd:.
Got me wondering if this is a recommended/ common practice or if it could actually hurt something or if this is just another gimmick. I have been changing oil on my all my cars and motorcycles for 30+ yrs and never heard of this - have I been missing out on something this whole time? I would be interested in hearing from others on this subject.
I really appreciate your response, huge smile on my face :laugh2:. I was beginning to think I was missing out on the eighth wonder of the world. I spent about 2 hrs of my life researching this that I will never get back.
Fast to put on and then the Deer whistles.Only deer can hear them. Then if you have time come over to my place I will check your muffler bearing for only $5 today only.Money back if they go bad with in a year of me saying they are ok. :wink2:
If you have that much metal needing to be trapped in the oil filter.....it is too late to worry about it anyway! Won't hurt anything however, so do what feels good to you.
Ever since spin on filters came out have heard of this.Have gave old ice box magnets to people that said they are perfect for doing that:grin2:.Like putting the high $$$$ oil in and filter on them if it makes you happy and feel better go for it. But I am the old guy that has five year old soft ear plugs used about 1,000 times each.0
If there are shavings that are suspended in the oil, that's what the filter is for to remove them.
Plus you have a little magnet in your oil pan drain plug. You see a lot of shavings on that one when you change the oil?
Since the OEM oil plug has a very weak magnet I guess Suzuki only wants to keep cats away not tigers.
When I first got my bike I'd see a tiny bit of metal fuzz on the oil plug whenever I changed my oil. I heard about using magnets on the oil filter so I pulled some magnets out of some old hard disk drives and stuck them to the oil filter. These are rare-earth magnets and are 1000's of time stronger than the OEM oil plug magnet. I haven't seen any metal fuzz on the oil plug since. Is that proof? Probably not but I don't care and I'm not going to tear apart a used oil filter to "prove" it to the skeptics (they can't be convinced of anything anyway). I think the basic idea is sound (Suzuki and other manufacturers agree with me) and the magnets can't possibly hurt anything so why not? Any computer repair shop will probably have a pile of these magnets for free.
In my school days. I wrapped a screwdriver with a insulated wire, hooked the wire to a 12V battery and created an electromagnet. Depending on how hard the steel was it would hold a charge. Don't see how it would do any damage to the filter.
Personally, I think with regular filter/oil changes you will be fine. Besides it will only attract iron particles.
I've used drain plugs with magnets for many years on both cars and motorcycles. It is common to have a fine black paste of steel particles on the magnet when the plug is pulled for the oil change. All the steel against steel contact points shed steel particles. Some are too small to be caught by the filter media. With motorcycle common oil systems for the engine and the transmission there are a lot of steel against steel contact points. The niobium magnets have the dual advantage of a strong magnetic pull plus retain the strength when hot.
I currently have niobium magnets on the oil filters of both the bike and the car.
I have put drain plugs with magnet in end on lots of machines.When you can see it does make you feel better.May not help that much but sure can not hurt that I know of?.:grin2:
I liked the Tiger reply but always thought it was Albino Yaks.
There may be a bit more than a placebo affect and it wouldn't hurt to let the practice continue.
Yeah this is yet another "whatever helps you sleep better" kind of condition. I believe were most OCD folks to actually do some research or controlled experiments, they would find out that overkill typically doesn't yield much if any better results. These engine are not made of glass, and most people will never own a motorcycle long enough to ever know if overkill maintenance or modifications makes any real world difference.
I have rode lots more black top miles than most my friends.Most took a motorcycle break a few years as many do. I try to sale or trade before 50,000 as I abuse them more than most.Guess the ten years of strip racing did not help. At 71 had a race with a Dodge truck on one of the RoadStars.Its dumb and child like but fun!:grin2:
You would think two traffic schools and lots of tickets would take all of it out of you? Never put 100,000 on a motorcycle yet.Over 82,000 in less than four years on my 01 Nomad and over 80,000 on one of my SR500s. If over 50,000 seems some high dollar stuff happens and they join the graveyard of high mile,not worth the fix that is my basement.Have sold the head off one of the SRs and sold my rare 1983 GS1100ES a few years back after out put shaft broke and had parked it as stopped drag racing in 1987. Like my old trucks just like to look at them even if broken.Had three old trucks at one time till around seven years ago.Sold the 36 Ford and 38 chevy but still have the 37 chevy and plan on keeping it.I tell the wife ,"they are just my past and fun to look at".She says"They are junk :furious:and you have way too many!" All so ..Funeral at one Auction at three!:surprise:
Talk about a bomb went off! Had a new 1978 GS1000 Suzuki ,the hot chain drive one.Best handling high speed Japan bike I ever owned. Hit second at red line and the clutch basket blew! Not just a break in to a few pieces but lots! Steel plates, fiber ,and basket just all in bits!One put a silver dollar size hole right in back of motor case in front of the spinning rear wheel.Four quarts of hot 10-40 on a red lined wheel is a fun ride :surprise::surprise:surprise::.Lucky it did not go over. Suzuki sent me a new set of cases but all summer wait.:furious:
Had a 1977 GS 750 break the head off one of the clutch bolts and make a hole in the clutch cover.Blown other clutch baskets and cracked some but never any thing close to that one!That's why I say if you use the word.. bullet proof... you ain't done much racing at a real drag strip.>
But D.T. could you sleep better if you just yank one of the magnets off the ice box and slap on the oil filter?:grin2: I have not yet and did not think about it at all last night. But may be today?
Good idea s:grin2: swingset! and got to have some stick on glow lights under it to look like a Thanksgiving. Bet he is just dissmissing us right now as nuts? Been called a lot worse by ones that said I do with me!>
May be Big Penny should be your handle with that much copper. Does the under wear help? May be I should look in to that?:grin2: How much copper I have on is related to how many pennies I have in change. Tell this one or may never recall it again at my age.
Around twenty years ago on a high 30s temp day headed to mc shop on a Sat. morning.Stop at Mickey Ds as have not ate.Went in instead of drive around to warm up a little and take it to shop.As usually had to stand in line.At the check out in my line was a very young tall blond gal.Could tell she just started as the young Boss often came and told her what to do.When my turn a coffee and what ever I got came to $4.27.Reach in my pocket and seven pennies.So I give her a five and the pennies.She smiles looks at the money and back at me,then over at Boss way to the other side now.'I just want to get rid of the pennies ". She gets the biggest smile and says"THANKS! and puts them in her jeans pocket.Counts me out 80 cents.The guy back of me laughing really hard leans in and says"ain't you going to tell her!?" "No man it was worth way more than that to make the kid feel good.":grin2:
You'd think that that would be a huge sales point for the filter companies and +++ in market share and sales. But no.
It doesn't add any value to the filter and here is why:
1. The magnet field will flow through the case.
2. The metal particles that go through oil are too small to be affected by the magnetic field remaining from the case.
3. The oil itself is thick enough to not let any of the no.2 particles be affected that might have a chance.
4. The oil filter companies are not doing it, so it has no benefit.
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