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Old 10-23-2009, 12:47 PM
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Default EBC HH brake pads in heavy rain

I've had the EBC HH pads on the front for about six months. They are well "broken in" and the stock rotors are still fine. I've been pretty satisfied with these all summer, but now that I'm finally riding in the heavy PNW rain, I'm not so sure. On initial application, it takes a second for them to start biting (I think that's true of most brakes in heavy rain), after that, they do work but as the bike slows below about 15 miles an hour they suddenly start to bite a lot more and make a honking/groaning sound. This bit is so annoying that I've taken to easing up on the front brake as I come to a stop. I'm a bit tempted to change them out for something else since I'll be rain commuting for the next several months.

It hasn't been too long since I last inspected the pads and they weren't "shot", but I'll check that again when I get home tonight.

Anybody else had problems with EBC in heavy rain?

Any suggestions for a different pad that might work better?



FYI: From what I recall:
  • The stock pads were OK in the rain but not very "strong"
  • The Carbone Lorraine pads I used before the EBC were pretty good in both rain and dry but wore very fast
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OK, I checked the pads and they are in very good shape. The brakes are still very functional so I guess I'll put up with the "honking" and see how that goes through the Winter.
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Just in case you got some foreign material on the rotors or pads, you can dress them with fine sandpaper. Lightly sandpaper the rotor surface, then clean with brake cleaner. Put a piece of sandpaper on a flat surface and lightly sand the friction surface of the pads & clean with brake clean. Lube the back of the pads on the rubbing points with caliper grease, as well as cleaning and lubing the slides on the calipers.
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I avoid rain like the plague and can only imagine that, unlike a car' brakes, being fully exposed is not an ideal situation for this. You may be creating steam that could affect the pad>rotor conditions and increasing the heat to the point of attempting a fusion to develop. Scary stuff and maybe a slower speed and occessional applying the brakes to keep them dried off will minimize this experience.

I use ESC's HH-sintered brakes and love 'em - no damage to the rotors and just a minor amount of weear in 10,000+ miles. Use 'em on back in my '07 ABS model and they arere just right to traffic stops and in-the-turn slowdowns.
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Ok...time to revive an ancient thread.

I have owned my used Wee for a couple of weeks now and the brakes are normally fine. However, my first ride in pouring, soggy rain scared the snot out of me when I first squeezed the front brake. There is basically NOTHING for a second or two and then they finally start biting almost as good as when dry. And like BryanD said in the first post, they make a groaning noise at slower speeds.

I have no idea what brand of pads are in there, but I think I should change them for something else. Anyone else experience this crazy phenomenon?
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Ok...time to revive an ancient thread.

I have owned my used Wee for a couple of weeks now and the brakes are normally fine. However, my first ride in pouring, soggy rain scared the snot out of me when I first squeezed the front brake. There is basically NOTHING for a second or two and then they finally start biting almost as good as when dry. And like BryanD said in the first post, they make a groaning noise at slower speeds.

I have no idea what brand of pads are in there, but I think I should change them for something else. Anyone else experience this crazy phenomenon?
Organic pads work better under those conditions. That's a known problem with the high friction metalic pads.

Galfer black's from SV racing for example - insane stopping power on my L2 and fine in rain.

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I thought the Galfer Blacks were supposed to have less stopping power but longer lasting. I just put on Galfer HH from BLair and love them, but have yet to ride in the rain with them.
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Organic pads work better under those conditions. That's a known problem with the high friction metalic pads.

Galfer black's from SV racing for example - insane stopping power on my L2 and fine in rain.
This is the tenth bike I have owned and the first time I have ever experienced rain affecting braking performance. Weird.
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No brake system works good when wet, anyone who goes through water in vehicles or bikes alike knows this, you must "ride" the brakes while accelerating to heat them up and dry them off. Very common with disk brakes, and almost constant with drum brakes.
It's not the pads fault if your rotors are wet, but some pads bite better in wet because they heat up quicker. Ceramic/ metallic compounds dissipate heat quicker and don't generate as much heat in the first place, therefore taking longer to stop when soaking wet. Once you warm them up you will immediately feel them perform as they do when dry.


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