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post #1 of 26 Old 12-08-2016, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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I have the opportunity to switch from a 2013 650 to 2014 1000 adventure. It took me a long time to get the 2013 650 to my liking coming from a 2006 650 which was great, and still is. I really enjoy the 650's but the 1000 is here for the taking over. So I'm finding the 1000 feeling very top heavy in comparison to the 650's. No top case or side cases on the bike. I've ridden it about 400 miles this last week and just find it very top heavy especially the low speed handling. Anyone have suggestions to combat this. We tried the lower seat but that didn't seem to change anything other than monkey butt in a hour. It has a russell day-long which was on it last summer when we went to Alaska.

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So strange, I felt no difference in steering or overall feeling between the new 1000 and my 2nd Gen 650.
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Seems silly but could it be the tyres. Found that on my Concours, at low speed front felt like it wanted to turn in and was quite unstable until I change to a different set.
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Add a few items to see if it balances it out more for you

- engine guard
- crash bars
- center stand
- rear mud guard
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I got my 2015 DL1000 when I still had my 2012 DL650.

My first reaction was to note how easy the bike was to handle.. It didn't feel any heavier than the DL650 and was even easier to do full-lock turns.

(Literally the same equipment. I never bothered with crash bars and that stuff on my bikes and use the exact same 52 litre topcase whoever I rode either bike. )

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I have the opportunity to switch from a 2013 650 to 2014 1000 adventure. It took me a long time to get the 2013 650 to my liking coming from a 2006 650 which was great, and still is. I really enjoy the 650's but the 1000 is here for the taking over. So I'm finding the 1000 feeling very top heavy in comparison to the 650's. No top case or side cases on the bike. I've ridden it about 400 miles this last week and just find it very top heavy especially the low speed handling. Anyone have suggestions to combat this. We tried the lower seat but that didn't seem to change anything other than monkey butt in a hour. It has a russell day-long which was on it last summer when we went to Alaska.
I think I know what you mean. I got mine without a test ride. Actually, they didn't even have one on the floor when I bought it. I had never seen one in the flesh. When it arrived a couple of days later, I had run about a tank and a half of fuel through it and remember thinking this sucker is tall and a bit weird. I think part of that feeling was more from my other bikes than the V2 itself. Any way, at about 2000 miles I got a set of 1 inch lowering links from Rick and for me that little bit lower CG made the bike mine. I've got about 9000 miles on it now and while I still like my other bikes the V-Strom is my favorite. Hang in there, keep riding and I bet it will come to you.
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In 2014 I've traded my 2012 DL650 for 2014 DL1000 and felt no difference in handling and weigh. Center stand and Givi crash bars came few months later.
But, if it was because of the tires, yes, both bikes on Michelin PR4 front and rear all the time.

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I got my 2015 DL1000 when I still had my 2012 DL650.

My first reaction was to note how easy the bike was to handle.. It didn't feel any heavier than the DL650 and was even easier to do full-lock turns.

(Literally the same equipment. I never bothered with crash bars and that stuff on my bikes and use the exact same 52 litre topcase whoever I rode either bike. )

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I'm with Tom on this one. Having owned some truly top heavy bikes, the V2 turned out to be a cornering joy.
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I just did the same upgrade (2013 650 to new leftover 2014 1000). I had 11,000 miles on the 650 and now 2100 miles on the 1000. I have them FARKLE'd identically (including a Givi V47 top case with maybe 10 lbs in it) and don't get it. We have a low speed course (cones in a parking lot at the dealer) to see how nimble they are at very low speeds and they use them for the training courses.

While they are very close I consistently do better with the 1000 (I thought it was the less aggressive tires) at very low speed turning and have no such feeling of top heavy on either bike except when pushing either around stopped from the side. The 650 which I have since sold had TCK70s and the new 1000 has the BWs. I had a Terry Adcox seat on the 650 (stock seat was awful) but the 1000 stock seat is fine.

Could it be your height vs seat height? I am about 6' with about a 32.5" inseam. That is the only thing I can think of.... How tall are you? Inseam? The ole noodle might be playing tricks....

Puzzled on that one...... Do the firm wings on the RDL seat affect putting your feet down?
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I just did the same upgrade (2013 650 to new leftover 2014 1000). I had 11,000 miles on the 650 and now 2100 miles on the 1000. I have them FARKLE'd identically and don't get it. We have a low speed course (cones in a parking lot at the dealer) to see how nimble they are at very low speeds and they use them for the training courses. While they are very close I consistently do better with the 1000 (I thought it was the less aggressive tires) at very low speed turning and have no such feeling of top heavy on either bike except when pushing either around stopped from the side. The 650 which I have since sold had TCK70s and the new 1000 has the BWs. I had a Terry Adcox seat on the 650 (stock seat was awful) but the 1000 stock seat is fine.

Could it be your height vs seat height? I am about 6' with about a 32.5" inseam. That is the only thing I can think of.... How tall are you? Inseam? The ole noodle might be playing tricks....

Puzzled on that one......
Better suspension on the 1000 as well.
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