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post #1 of 36 Old 08-23-2016, 01:34 PM Thread Starter
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Simple Mod for Stock and Seat Concepts Seats

This mod is easy, free, and gives a subtle noticeable improvement.

I had the opportunity to sit on a seat concepts Vee2 seat at the last eastern gathering. The owner pointed out that it was a good seat as long as you didn't mind the forward position and a little pressure on the sacroiliac. I had a Shad comfort seat on my own Vee2, but was eager to give it a try.

It was as the owner said a good seat with the traditional tractor seat shape. I did notice that it seemed to place me a little forward and the my butt was up against the curved step to the passenger area.

When I posted my experience seat concepts took exception to my comment that teh seat placed the rider further forward. Turned out they were right. I had gotten use to my Shad comfort seat which provides a little more space for the rider.

Anyway, I bought a seat concepts seat and tried it for a while. Nice foam, comfortable bucket, but that pressure on the sacroiliac was still there. Seat concepts provides new foam and a cover that goes over the stock seat pan. Very economical and not too hard to do with good succes. The owner of Seat Concepts had explained to me that the stock seat pan was a limiting factor on the Vee2 seat. For some reason Suzuki put a ridge across the back that limits the depth of foam at the riders tailbone. You can see it here in this photo.



This is exactly the opposite of the Shad comfort seat which provides a relief in the foam (a hollow tunnel) under the rider tail bone so that weight is supported on the butt cheeks.

My course of action became clear. Turn the negative into a positive by removing the raised part of the stock seat pan under the tail bone. In theory it should give the same effect as the Shad seat tunnel.





It worked. A subtle change in feel, but the right change. The pressure on the tailbone is gone. Now it's just a feeling of broad support.

Seems like it should work as well with the stock seat as the seat concepts seat.

I used an rotary cut off tool to make the cut.

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post #2 of 36 Old 08-23-2016, 06:28 PM
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Is there a chance you could get another picture of it from a little further away for better perspective on the relief cut? I have terrible issues with tail bone related discomfort and pain and this might be the ticket for me. I just picked up a seat concepts seat and have not had a chance to ride it yet but I figured after the stock and gel seats have murdered my ass theirs can't be nearly as bad but I just know that tailbone issue is going to make or break it for me.

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Sure, I'll try to get it later today. Going to pick up a new bike right now.

I also wanted to re-emphasize how this could be a good fix for the stock seat foam. Although the foam is fairly flat, to me the stock seat felt convex or rounded. I believe this is because the foam is so much thinner and the hard plastic seat base so close to the rider down the center of the seat. Removing the hard plastic in the area under the tail bone should make the stock foam much more comfortable.
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Is this the stock seat or the seat comfort seat? Can't wait to see more pics.

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Stock seat pan left, Shad Comfort Seat right



You can't see the tunnel in the Shad's seat's foam, but you can see that the stock seat has plastic closer to the body/ thinner foam in the tail bone/prostate area.

Another view of the cut.



Tomorrow I'm going to extend the removed plastic another inch or so forward. The first cut relieved the pressure on the tail bone. A little more is needed to relieve the pressure on the prostate area. However, as is, it's an improvement.
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New bike????

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Yea, that was the plan. Kawasaki Versys. More parts to design. Another fun bike to ride. But it's Gen 2 version did not live up to expectations. Very disappointing for a middle aged bald guy like me. (Who am I kidding, I'm not middle aged anymore!) Despite the magazine writers opinions I think the V-Strom still owns this class in a big way.

ADVENTURE TOURING COMPARISON: Kawasaki Versys 650 LT vs. Suzuki V-Strom 650XT | MOTORCYCLIST

I'm going to make a course adjustment and take a hard look at the latest Gen 3 Versys offering. Nuff said. Back on topic. I'll start a thread discussing the Gen 3 Versys if I get one.
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Do you see any downside to cutting the pan?

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Nope yet, no down side. Dirt bike riders have been doign ti for years.

I took out another 1.5" forward this morning. Haven't ridden it, but just sitting still it seems to have had the desired effect. Will update after a few miles.
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Yea, that was the plan. Kawasaki Versys. More parts to design. Another fun bike to ride. But it's Gen 2 version did not live up to expectations. Very disappointing for a middle aged bald guy like me. (Who am I kidding, I'm not middle aged anymore!) Despite the magazine writers opinions I think the V-Strom still owns this class in a big way.

ADVENTURE TOURING COMPARISON: Kawasaki Versys 650 LT vs. Suzuki V-Strom 650XT | MOTORCYCLIST

I'm going to make a course adjustment and take a hard look at the latest Gen 3 Versys offering. Nuff said. Back on topic. I'll start a thread discussing the Gen 3 Versys if I get one.
Haven't ridden on Gen3 Versys, but as a guy coming in opposite direction, why?? Despite all what they say in motorcyclist review, Wee is much better more versatile machine.

I gave up on Versys due to following reasons:
- Versys sucks 2up loaded. To say handles like crap would be a big understatement
- 17" DS tire availability.
- Wee engine is alot smoother and usable in 2-3k range. Versys? not so much.
- MPG, or more precisely tank range.

Now as exclusive on-road solo machine it may be better, but not by much. Not enough to overcome shortcomings above.
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