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Old 12-06-2012, 01:06 PM
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I have a 07 V with 50,000 miles,and like most V owners I have had a fueling issue since new.I'm wondering why it is worse in some gears than others??.My big problem is between 2,500-3,000 rpms,in 1st gear it's ok,in 2nd it starts to show up.In 3rd-5th gear it is unridable if I try to hold it between those rpm's.Why is it different in some gears even though it is the same rpm??.


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Old 12-06-2012, 01:20 PM
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The Vee is restricted in all gears but 4th and the restrictions depend on the gear.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:28 PM
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What kind of restrictions??,rpm,fuel etc.What is a TRE??,and would it help??.


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Old 12-06-2012, 01:41 PM
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A TRE fools the ECM into "thinking" the bike is always in 4th so removes all restrictions except exceeding the red line. Low gear restrictions control the secondaries so the fuel/air combo is affected though there is a maximum rpm in any gear. Though many people like the effect, a fuel map change is the real solution. A TRE has a smaller effect and the increase in top speed will encourage some people to try going faster than the chassis and aerodynamics can handle safely.
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I have a 07 V with 50,000 miles,and like most V owners I have had a fueling issue since new.I'm wondering why it is worse in some gears than others??.My big problem is between 2,500-3,000 rpms,in 1st gear it's ok,in 2nd it starts to show up.In 3rd-5th gear it is unridable if I try to hold it between those rpm's.Why is it different in some gears even though it is the same rpm??.


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I have a 2012 Vee that has been re-mapped with a PC-V. It had issues but not as bad as you describe. Are the symptoms getting worse as the bike gets more time on it? What is it doing? Have you done the chudder test to rule it out?
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Yes it is getting worse as the miles pile up,and yes I have the clutch chudder ( I have had it for more than 30,000 miles ).Can you use the TRE and a PC ??.


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Why is it different in some gears even though it is the same rpm??.
higher gears require more power per same RPM, due to increased speeds. i have pure stock 07 ECU in my 05 DL1 and it works ok for me. IMHO, if ya keep youre R's around or above 4k , most of your problems will just simply go away.
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I agree with the above 4000rpm and most of your problems go away, but it doesn't go to plan in peak hour traffic. With my two bros cans, 4000 rpm is when the noise is similar to the space shuttle take off! Quietens down again and then re ignites at 7000rpm.

As for the original post, I have PC3 and TRE and still have some issues at low rpm
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Quit analyzing it. Quit thinking about it. I drove myself crazy with iridium plugs, TBS, TPS adjustment, air filter cleaning, plug wires, coil,....etc.

Then I broke down and had mine remapped. Instant bliss.
No surging, no hiccups. I can ride it at constant rpms in the 3,000 to 4,000 rpm range in stop and go traffic without cussing it. And it still runs like a scalded cat above 5,000 rpm to the redline.

Mine had mild chudder before and even less now due to smoother running under load. It really should be done to every Vee when new...and I suspect those who say their Vee is fine are not savvy enough or picky enough to care. Every one I have seen has screwed up lean stock mapping. The PC route is fine also if you are a fiddler, but a yosh remap for a rider like me who doesn't make intake or exhaust mods is better IMO.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:26 PM
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But finding a yosh box is difficult,anybody know who has one in the Seattle area !!.
I rode 50,000 miles with it like it is becuase I was pissed that Suzuki made it like this and didn't think I should be paying for it,also I planned to get rid of it when it was paid off.Now it will be paid offed in a few monthes but my wife says we can't afford a new bike now sooooo I'm not going to ride it like this anymore,fix the fueling and the chudder and get a new shock !!!.


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