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Old 11-04-2012, 01:40 AM
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Default Stock Wee Strom...what parts to buy?

So as I said in my intro post, I've just purchased a 2005 Wee Strom, with 360000kms, and with all stock gear, and I'm looking to get some gear for trips in the future.

On my (very long and boring) ride to Canberra last June, my fingers froze. How effective are Barkbusters or other similar products at wind deflection? What are your recommendations?

The bike came with a (and apologies if this isn't the right terminology), a GIVI plate/board for a top box, and Monokey sideracks, but not the actual cases. Are they universal? Or do I need to buy those brands? I've had a bit of a look on the web, and am rather confused by the huge range of options. What would you recommend for a week away for one in terms of 'literage' of the cases? How about a weekend away for 2?

From what I've been reading, the buffeting that I'm coming across seems pretty common to most Strom owners. My previous bike didn't have a windscreen, so I'm used to feeling the full brunt of windforce, but this buffeting is something altogether different. I've tried the (stock) windshield at each of the three height settings, and although the middle option is the better, it's still pretty bad, and I don't think I'd want to do a trip with it. I've been reading a lot about the Maddstad system, what are your thoughts on how successful it is? If it helps, I'm about 190cm tall.

Crash bars....recommendations? I don't plan to drop the bike, but you just never know.

Training courses. I've done a couple of advanced driver/driver safety etc style courses over the years, what is about in NSW (my preference is either the Central Coast or Newcastle, but I'll go to Sydney if need be) that is reputable for improving rider awareness/skills/control etc?

Pillion...part of the reason for buying the Wee Strom, other then it felt like putting a glove on when I sat on it, was so that the wife and I, in time, could do weekend trips on it rather then drive, just to change things up. I've never had, or been, a pillion before, and my wife has never ridden a bike at all. What tips, or advice do you guys have? My thoughts were to just do a couple of local trips..to the shops, to football etc just to get used to it, before venturing out on a trip away.

I have to say though, that so far I love the WeeStrom. Very comfortable, it feels like wearing a glove, and it's so nice to know that if I need the power, that it's there.
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:10 AM
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G'day Darth,

Congrats on getting your Wee-strom...you'll find that 36Ks is just about run in and loosened up....I Bought my 07 wee Oct '11 and it had 24,500 k's and now 35,000 ks and have noticed that it has loosened up somewhat since I've had it....jeez..hope that's a good sign

I have the original Suzuki std handhards on mine, not the barkbusters and I find it does keep your hands dry for a good while and a lot warmer when your gloves do get wet.
You Will need some crash bars as even if you drop the bike from a standstill, it'll protect your fairing and paintwork....money well spent in my opinion.
(don't ask me how I know this ok)

I highly recommend getting a decent sized topbox and seeing that you already have a givi plate, perhaps that's the brand to get whereas if you can't yet afford to get side hardcases (Givis are pretty expensive) you might first go and get some andy Strapz of Blackwolf soft pannier bags and the racks you have will be ok to strap them on....and will keep them away from the high placed exhaust pipe. I also recommend the Givi T480 tank bag GIVI T480 TANKLOCK - Soft Luggages
You screw a flange to your tank ring and it clips onto the underside of the bag and doesn't come in contact with your tank.....I have one and it was a great investment.....holds heaps of stuff too.
Just to give you an idea of luggage space required, I have a Decent sized RJ's topbox, the large Andy Strapz A bag and my tank bag and it was enough storage for 9 days on the road but that was only solo riding.Even 2 soft expedtion bags strapped onto your sideracks will near double your storage....just be careful of weight distribution if you're taking the Mrs with extra luggage (not trying to be a smartarse here).

Just on a last note before finishing, a few of us get together at least once a Month for a decent day ride around the lower hunter including some good scenic gravel roads...if you're interested in comming up one day, you'd be more than welcome to join us. we are all over 50...just not saying by how much Just keep an eye on the forum and if you see a thread on Newcastle rides...it could be us....we're trying on planning a 2 day ride this Month...keep ya posted.

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Old 11-04-2012, 02:59 AM
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On my (very long and boring) ride to Canberra last June, my fingers froze. How effective are Barkbusters or other similar products at wind deflection? What are your recommendations?
Standard hand guards offer more wind protection than Bark Busters but less crash protection. The standard guards are designed for wind protection only.

While you are at it get heated grips.

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The bike came with a (and apologies if this isn't the right terminology), a GIVI plate/board for a top box, and Monokey sideracks, but not the actual cases. Are they universal? Or do I need to buy those brands? I've had a bit of a look on the web, and am rather confused by the huge range of options. What would you recommend for a week away for one in terms of 'literage' of the cases? How about a weekend away for 2?
The actual mounting points are proprietary but racks is racks. The easy solution is just buy Givi. Today I would buy Andy Strapz panniers and an A bag for across the top of the seat. Soft panniers are better off road and tend to survive bikes falling over better.

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From what I've been reading, the buffeting that I'm coming across seems pretty common to most Strom owners.
I don't have a buffeting problem and to me Madstads are accidents waiting to happen so there would never be one on my bike. Before you buy a Madstad raise the screen to the top position and put 1/2" (or thereabouts, use two sections of garden hose) spacers behind the bottom mounts. Just pretend they are big washers. This rakes the screen back a bit and allows more air under the screen which reduces the vortex behind the screen which is what causes the buffeting. It will cost you 1 inch off the end of your neighbours hose.
If that doesn't work it's up to you what you do next.

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Crash bars....recommendations? I don't plan to drop the bike, but you just never know.
Either Givi or SW Motech. I prefer the SW Motech ones but it's horses for courses.

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Training courses.
You will have to look around your area.

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I've never had, or been, a pillion before, and my wife has never ridden a bike at all. What tips, or advice do you guys have?
Take it slow and careful. If you have a friend who is an experienced rider get them to take you for a short ride as a pillion then take your wife out a couple of times with you riding beside. Then you ride your Strom with an experienced pillion on the back. The Strom is very top heavy and is way worse with a pillion at start and stop time the last thing you want is an inexperienced rider and passenger.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:05 PM
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Training courses. I've done a couple of advanced driver/driver safety etc style courses over the years, what is about in NSW (my preference is either the Central Coast or Newcastle, but I'll go to Sydney if need be) that is reputable for improving rider awareness/skills/control etc?
Welcome to the forum and good choice for a bike.
If you have been riding for a while and would like to improve techniques and ability I would suggest the Advanced Skills Course run by Stay Upright at Eastern Creek. New South Wales | Stay Upright
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:45 PM
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360000km, I thought mine had a lot of kays
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:29 PM
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Hey you doin buddy

congrats on the buy, I have an 09 wee but what I did wrong was buy everything minus the crash bars once I'd dropped it a couple of times I became pretty good at repair an respray.

The Barbusters are just a poor mans version of heated grips get the grips its like heating/air con in your first decent car you dont know how you went without.

Givi is the "stock" accesories that Suzuki use so if you've already got the plate just get the box as well you should pick one up that carries two full face helmets. Panniers Ive found are only good for long trips as your doing but i've used mine once an they've stayed on the shelf ever since. If your t your wife is coming along your probably going to stay in motels anyway so why carry the extra luggage just get a decent tank bag an some back packs.

I have Madstad its good I've tried the stock screen, Eagle super touring an I'll stick with madstad thanx.

About the buffeting chief the madstad deals with this well but once you have a pilion the aerodynamics of the bike changes eg. my pillion had an annoying habit of always leaning on my left an the wind would deflect off her an blow down the back of my neck.

One more thing get an airhawk there cheap an comfortable.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:11 AM
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just get a decent tank bag an some back packs.
Two inexperienced people on a bike both wearing back packs. That's the best laugh I have had for weeks. Are your serious or are you just trying to ensure that his pillion never rides with him?
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:02 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys.

That Tanklock bag looks superb. I'll be investigating that, and a top box first and see how they go before I go ahead and purchase panniers or sideboxes. Good tip on making sure the topbox holds 2 full face helmets too. I hate having to carry mine around uni, and it makes sense, especially as I plan to carry a pillion to be able to put both of them away.

Cheers for the invite Dave. I'd be interested in meeting up and getting out of the regular riding routines (to and from work/football/uni/shops etc).

Is there anything around that offers both wind and crash protection? The concept of heated hand grips is exciting, having ridden to Canberra in June with out any wind protection. Any advise on a particular brand/model for that?

I'll be trying your idea of the hose sections before I spend money on windshields. Thanks for the heads up.

Thanks for the heads up on the Stay Upright courses. The courses look great, and to be honest, I'd probably start with the basic course and work my way up.

The Airhawk looks good, I'll look into it if I find that the seat gets uncomfortable on long trips.

Cheers for the welcome guys.
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Good tip on making sure the topbox holds 2 full face helmets too. I hate having to carry mine around uni, and it makes sense, especially as I plan to carry a pillion to be able to put both of them away.
A word of warning there. My top box holds two full face helmets. The only problem is that it doesn't unless my two children who both have small sized helmet shells are out riding my bike by themselves.
What will or won't fit inside a top box has nothing whatsoever to do with what it written on the sales brochure. Helmets come in all shapes and sizes and just because the ones my kids wear fit doesn't mean than my two helmets will both fit or that either of mine plus my wife's will fit.
Try before you buy if that is important to you.
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Hello Darth

Reference the buffeting. Certainly give Kiwis hosepipe idea a go. If that fails to satisfy, I dumped the standard one, which everyone seemed to agree was hopeless, and got a Givi. No more buffet, the difference was simply amazing. Turned a very uncomfortable ride into pure joy.

Heated hands grips - absolutely. A lovely luxury.

Crash bars - an absolute definite must. I ride very conservatively and never thought I would drop my bike. well I have dropped it 3 times now, 2 low speed, and one at about 50kmh. On all 3 I nearly cried at the thought of the damage I might have done to my beautiful spotless machine. First two times - not one single tiny minute scratch. I was pleasantly and extremely dumbfounded. 2 weeks ago when I stacked in the hills and busted my ankle west of Canberra (see my Skaty Strom thread)' I came off in the gravel doing 50 ish. The scratches I put on the plastic guards I believe we're only inflicted when I had to grab the bike and drag it two feet through the gravel to get it away from the dirt mound it was up against which was preventing me from righting the bike. So it bites the dust at 50kmh, and then gets dragged by me through the gravel, and not one single teeny tiny scratch on the tank, and the scratches in the plastic guards are severely minor. CRASH BARS? Essential if you love your Strom.

Ride safe.

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