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Old 11-11-2012, 03:16 AM
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Reverse all those Noes, Saturn-5 !
Please continue giving useful tips and good practical advice on dirt riding. All of us novices benefit from learning and/or reviewing them.
(Yes, this is my genuine AND FRIENDLY request.)

But please don't mislead novices by attempting to give traditional-but-shonky reasons to back up SOME of those tips (however many books/videos those reasons used to appear in).

Best not to mention Centres-of-Gravity at all, either here or in the "other forum" Aussie-subsection ~ which BTW was still trundling along, having added some sensible comments by "Beemerboff" [#143] but then falling into another hole (where the writer of post #145 started off well but then trotted out the old nonsense in his final sentence).
"Eepeqez" then again came out with his beautiful picture of a leaning PepsiCola bottle ~ a picture that can explain a lot in only a few seconds of thinking about it. And also helps explain why "overleaning" the bike does not, cannot, put any more weight on the tyres . . . in case anyone here wishes to reassert that old furphy.

"Weighting the pegs" [which, please note : I do NOT "dismiss", as you IMPLIED in #28 of our thread] is a real minefield of a term, and ought to be replaced with a better term, most of the time. Maybe "overleaning the bike" or "riding outside the bike" . . . or something.
SuzyVStrom has made some good comments about "weighting" ~ he has carefully observed his own actions and finds that [overleaning] the bike on a dirt corner involves "weighting" first one peg . . . then the other peg . . . in getting his body off-centre from the bike's midline.
That, I must say, appeals to common sense ~ it is the forceful moving of the body and its location into a new [lateral] position that makes a real difference to cornering (rather than any fundamental causative effect from whatever "weight" is on whichever peg).

BTW there is now ANOTHER dirt riding thread in that "other" forum [under Perfect Line this time] and the guys are ALREADY in controversy about which peg to "weight".
One more piece of evidence why "weighting the peg" should be a rarely-used term. Too much confusion, at the novice / intermediate level.

Do I count myself as a novice dirt rider ?
Certainly : I regard myself as a novice ~ though not a complete novice ~ and I will continue to regard myself as a novice until I can become halfway as good a dirt rider as Jimmy Lewis . . . or at least, until I can finish in the first dozen places of the Finke Desert Race without falling once !!
Could be a while . . .
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:54 AM
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This thread can go on adnauseam but at least it has got people talking, some even argue but something good should come of it I hope. To finish my posts on this thread, I'll explain my tip on weighting the pegs, (I never thought it would bring on all this debate ) which doesn't work for all bikes or riders ....apparently? Hmmm. The term was always in common usage, don't know when or why or if it's not still in use. Maybe some haven't heard of it. I dunno.I was taught this way and it sure works for me and on any bike I've ridden.

OK here goes. Watch a pushbike rider labouring up a hill, pushing on the pedals, left right left right. See the way the bike behaves. It weaves under the weight of the pedals. Despite the nay sayers it works on motorcycles too. Think about it and try it, you'll see it helps in cornering. But the stinger is .....If you are out playing, sliding the rear, hanging the back out, place all or most of your weight on the OUTSIDE peg. This makes the tyre bite or dig in. Watch speedway and note how the outside peg (always on the right as speedway always runs anti-clockwise.) That's extreme riding and fun but I'm not up to doing it on the Strom but on lighter bikes it's irresistable.

Enough of this thread I'm gonna rocket off. OH... Welcome again Fester, just look at your thread.

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Post script: Re Pepsi bottle, is CoG and balance the same?... Always?

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Old 11-11-2012, 04:54 PM
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Hopefully this thread got some people (who are physicallly able to atm) out riding & practicing more than just talking about riding (TIC)

Welcome Fester & see you on a ride sometime (possibly a dirt road)
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Thanks Saturn.

Pick up the WRF tomorrow. just got to wait for the ankle to heal, then I'm gunna head out and weight pegs, count C of Gs, and generally stick my arse out in the wind.

Take care all - see ya in the dirt.
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Onya!!!
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